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TinkerPox Newbie
Posts : 198 Join date : 2012-01-19 Age : 24 Location : (Tacokingbob)
| Subject: Server for you guys Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:20 am | |
| I am creating a server with 1Gb and 1-25 players!I will open it soon,not really sure yet.)I need to just shovel like two drivewaysto get us started, and mow all summer every week(I would have to do it anyways though!).fr0stbyte and Dr.Mackeroth you two will be OPs!You guys can use it for FutureCraft stuff, just don`t try to crash it.What should I name it, not something stupid... | |
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Commander Error Sergeant
Posts : 1237 Join date : 2011-12-07 Age : 28 Location : Look up.
| Subject: Re: Server for you guys Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:01 am | |
| - tacokingbob wrote:
- I am creating a server with 1Gb and 1-25 players!I will open it soon,not really sure yet.)I need to just shovel like two drivewaysto get us started, and mow all summer every week(I would have to do it anyways though!).fr0stbyte and Dr.Mackeroth you two will be OPs!You guys can use it for FutureCraft stuff, just don`t try to crash it.What should I name it, not something stupid...
"FutureCraft Test Server"? Straightforward? And I'm unsure that we'll be testing anything other than Doc's amazing textures at this stage. | |
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GLaDOS Infantry
Posts : 703 Join date : 2011-12-12 Age : 53 Location : At Aperture Science, testing P-Body and Atlas.
| Subject: Re: Server for you guys Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:56 pm | |
| Maybe we could test ramming ships INTO EACH OTHER! CAUSE THAT WOULD BE AWESOME. | |
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The Schmetterling DEV
Posts : 3123 Join date : 2011-08-31 Location : I'm a butterfly.
| Subject: Re: Server for you guys Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:11 pm | |
| - tacokingbob wrote:
- I am creating a server with 1Gb and 1-25 players!I will open it soon,not really sure yet.)I need to just shovel like two drivewaysto get us started, and mow all summer every week(I would have to do it anyways though!).fr0stbyte and Dr.Mackeroth you two will be OPs!You guys can use it for FutureCraft stuff, just don`t try to crash it.What should I name it, not something stupid...
You forgot Ectrimble... Besides that, it's geat news! Still, we won't be testing much except the others capacity to not kill me over destroying a bad looking ship... | |
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TinkerPox Newbie
Posts : 198 Join date : 2012-01-19 Age : 24 Location : (Tacokingbob)
| Subject: Re: Server for you guys Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:02 pm | |
| - Dr. Mackeroth wrote:
- tacokingbob wrote:
- I am creating a server with 1Gb and 1-25 players!I will open it soon,not really sure yet.)I need to just shovel like two drivewaysto get us started, and mow all summer every week(I would have to do it anyways though!).fr0stbyte and Dr.Mackeroth you two will be OPs!You guys can use it for FutureCraft stuff, just don`t try to crash it.What should I name it, not something stupid...
You forgot Ectrimble...
Besides that, it's geat news! Still, we won't be testing much except the others capacity to not kill me over destroying a bad looking ship... Well eventually you will and now it is going to be 1.5gb and 1-30 players. | |
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TinkerPox Newbie
Posts : 198 Join date : 2012-01-19 Age : 24 Location : (Tacokingbob)
| Subject: Re: Server for you guys Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:37 pm | |
| Also maybe can it be the FutureCraft Premeir(IDK how it is spelled)server?Also all people who helped make this mod gets to be an OP, excluding Idea people. | |
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The Schmetterling DEV
Posts : 3123 Join date : 2011-08-31 Location : I'm a butterfly.
| Subject: Re: Server for you guys Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:01 pm | |
| - tacokingbob wrote:
- Also maybe can it be the FutureCraft Premeir(IDK how it is spelled)server?Also all people who helped make this mod gets to be an OP, excluding Idea people.
As in the Futurecraft Imperial server? The one which will house dozens of war ships and Atlantis itself? | |
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TinkerPox Newbie
Posts : 198 Join date : 2012-01-19 Age : 24 Location : (Tacokingbob)
| Subject: Re: Server for you guys Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:11 pm | |
| - Dr. Mackeroth wrote:
- tacokingbob wrote:
- Also maybe can it be the FutureCraft Premeir(IDK how it is spelled)server?Also all people who helped make this mod gets to be an OP, excluding Idea people.
As in the Futurecraft Imperial server? The one which will house dozens of war ships and Atlantis itself? Yes, and it will most likely have 40 slots though(Mowing all summer every week)plus you and fr0stbyte, might even be ADMINs but don`t ban my friends. | |
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ectrimble20 DEV
Posts : 441 Join date : 2011-11-07
| Subject: Re: Server for you guys Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:03 pm | |
| 1.5gb's of what? ram? hard drive? cpu? There's more to a server than a single speed rating. | |
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The Schmetterling DEV
Posts : 3123 Join date : 2011-08-31 Location : I'm a butterfly.
| Subject: Re: Server for you guys Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:06 pm | |
| - ectrimble20 wrote:
- 1.5gb's of what? ram? hard drive? cpu? There's more to a server than a single speed rating.
I'm assuming RAM. That's what most simple technical specs of computers use when they say "1.5 gigabytes of RAM!" | |
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The Schmetterling DEV
Posts : 3123 Join date : 2011-08-31 Location : I'm a butterfly.
| Subject: Re: Server for you guys Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:10 pm | |
| - tacokingbob wrote:
- Dr. Mackeroth wrote:
- tacokingbob wrote:
- Also maybe can it be the FutureCraft Premeir(IDK how it is spelled)server?Also all people who helped make this mod gets to be an OP, excluding Idea people.
As in the Futurecraft Imperial server? The one which will house dozens of war ships and Atlantis itself? Yes, and it will most likely have 40 slots though(Mowing all summer every week)plus you and fr0stbyte, might even be ADMINs but don`t ban my friends. Okay. Because the Futurecraft Primary Server (notice how I capitalized it) will probably need to be running on something 10x as powerful. This server will do for now, and once we have the mod going, we will take donations for a new server, and it shall be glorious! Still, we'll start building some of the proper fleet on your server, and port it over to the new on once it exist. It can still be a part of the Futurecraft empire, just not the main server... | |
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ectrimble20 DEV
Posts : 441 Join date : 2011-11-07
| Subject: Re: Server for you guys Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:12 pm | |
| oh, what would you know, he did say ram.
LOL
Well, not back to pesimisim, 1.5 gb of ram won't support 30 players. You'd need like 4-6gb to not run like an old atari, 8gb would be preferable.
1.5 will support like 5-10 people at most, if you have a kickn processor behind it and even then you'll probably whined up bottle necking the damn thing.
But hey, it's a server right? right?!? YEAH!!! | |
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ectrimble20 DEV
Posts : 441 Join date : 2011-11-07
| Subject: Re: Server for you guys Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:13 pm | |
| wait... no he didn't.... son of a... you tricked me Doc | |
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TinkerPox Newbie
Posts : 198 Join date : 2012-01-19 Age : 24 Location : (Tacokingbob)
| Subject: Re: Server for you guys Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:24 pm | |
| i found a way cheaper one with 1-48 slots and 2gb of RAM but no teamspeak amd mcmyadmin | |
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TinkerPox Newbie
Posts : 198 Join date : 2012-01-19 Age : 24 Location : (Tacokingbob)
| Subject: Re: Server for you guys Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:26 pm | |
| i have to clean the house though for two months tommorrow,the WHOLE HOUSE! | |
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TinkerPox Newbie
Posts : 198 Join date : 2012-01-19 Age : 24 Location : (Tacokingbob)
| Subject: Re: Server for you guys Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:29 pm | |
| Or even $32 for 1-96 slots, 4096 ram, ME like, and I get $35 for cleaning,perfect.I will need donations, or lots of cleaning my house until April when I can mow my yard.I will post IP on this forum, but FutureCraft creators, will get on a week or more, before it is open to the public, so we can prepare, and creat peace fleets (AKA one super admin, in a super dreadnought, to BAN people)Also we will need a sister server to travel between.(I can`t do that though)Mine will probably be main due to 1-96 slots and about 4gb RAM.
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ectrimble20 DEV
Posts : 441 Join date : 2011-11-07
| Subject: Re: Server for you guys Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:31 pm | |
| - tacokingbob wrote:
- i found a way cheaper one with 1-48 slots and 2gb of RAM but no teamspeak amd mcmyadmin
Alright buddy, let me Edumacate you on servers. Servers come in many different sizes and configuration. Different variables play different factors in what a server is capable of. Let us take a look at your 48 slot 2g server. What kind of processor does it have? speed of the processor? What kind of hard drive is it setup on? Is it a shared server (meaning more than one server will run off the same machine, virtual machines if you will)? What kind of pipe (internet connection) does it have? What operating system is it running under? windows? linux? linux? yes linux windows sucks. Anyway, there's much much more to a server then Ram. Ram is only used to store and transfer information between the hard drive and processor (it does more than that but I'm not teaching a computer science class here now am I? ), thusly, for 2 GB of ram to be worth a squat, you want to make sure it has a decent processor (2ghz+ is preferable, dual core? who cares, minecraft was written as a single threaded application cuz Mojong is lame). The hard drive speed isn't so much of a problem, most servers are setup in a Raid 5 configuration which gives you good size and good speed plus a bit of redundancy (unless you lose two drives in the Raid in which case LOL BYE-BYE RAID). If you're looking online, shoot some links and I'd be happy to give some advice. Bigger slot numbers is not always better fyi! | |
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TinkerPox Newbie
Posts : 198 Join date : 2012-01-19 Age : 24 Location : (Tacokingbob)
| Subject: Re: Server for you guys Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:37 pm | |
| - ectrimble20 wrote:
- tacokingbob wrote:
- i found a way cheaper one with 1-48 slots and 2gb of RAM but no teamspeak amd mcmyadmin
Alright buddy, let me Edumacate you on servers.
Servers come in many different sizes and configuration. Different variables play different factors in what a server is capable of.
Let us take a look at your 48 slot 2g server. What kind of processor does it have? speed of the processor? What kind of hard drive is it setup on? Is it a shared server (meaning more than one server will run off the same machine, virtual machines if you will)? What kind of pipe (internet connection) does it have? What operating system is it running under? windows? linux? linux? yes linux windows sucks.
Anyway, there's much much more to a server then Ram. Ram is only used to store and transfer information between the hard drive and processor (it does more than that but I'm not teaching a computer science class here now am I? ), thusly, for 2 GB of ram to be worth a squat, you want to make sure it has a decent processor (2ghz+ is preferable, dual core? who cares, minecraft was written as a single threaded application cuz Mojong is lame). The hard drive speed isn't so much of a problem, most servers are setup in a Raid 5 configuration which gives you good size and good speed plus a bit of redundancy (unless you lose two drives in the Raid in which case LOL BYE-BYE RAID).
If you're looking online, shoot some links and I'd be happy to give some advice. Bigger slot numbers is not always better fyi! I got a AMD Athlon II X2 215 dual-core processor and 500gb hard drive. | |
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ectrimble20 DEV
Posts : 441 Join date : 2011-11-07
| Subject: Re: Server for you guys Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:41 pm | |
| Bottom of the barrel Athlon there, Google says...... 2.7ghz dual core, not the worst thing on earth by any respect, I'd suspect that with 4g of ram an 500gb of space, you could comfortably support about 20-30 players before things started bottle necking so long as the computer isn't running 6 servers at the same time.
Again, I'd do a bit more digging to get a realistic idea of what their servers are capable of. | |
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TinkerPox Newbie
Posts : 198 Join date : 2012-01-19 Age : 24 Location : (Tacokingbob)
| Subject: Re: Server for you guys Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:14 pm | |
| - ectrimble20 wrote:
- Bottom of the barrel Athlon there, Google says...... 2.7ghz dual core, not the worst thing on earth by any respect, I'd suspect that with 4g of ram an 500gb of space, you could comfortably support about 20-30 players before things started bottle necking so long as the computer isn't running 6 servers at the same time.
Again, I'd do a bit more digging to get a realistic idea of what their servers are capable of. go to pytohosting type it in and put .com and go to fragnet and add .net I can`t do links, being a newbie, but see which one is better. | |
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TinkerPox Newbie
Posts : 198 Join date : 2012-01-19 Age : 24 Location : (Tacokingbob)
| Subject: Re: Server for you guys Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:39 pm | |
| This server is run in Germany(VPS) I am in the U.S. and the server will only lag a little bit if a 1 million block ship comes in and blows up.It is official server will be up tommorrow E-mail me at legorockband1@ yahoo.com (get rid of space)if you wish to join(No Whitelist I`ll just give you IP, and it will be named FutureCraft Imperial, I think this is perfect, 1-96 slots, and 4096mb RAM and VPS!Will this stay as your official server, since I have alot of slots and RAM?It will open by 4pm-9PM, send me your worlds, I will import one world to the server, doesn`t have to have buildings/ships, could be cool landscape or mountains! | |
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TinkerPox Newbie
Posts : 198 Join date : 2012-01-19 Age : 24 Location : (Tacokingbob)
| Subject: Re: Server for you guys Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:26 pm | |
| Dr.Mackeroth and fr0stbyte, will this become the official futurecraft server?I will give you guys IP and others on this forum.I will E-mail it send me a message for the IP tommorrow! | |
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The Schmetterling DEV
Posts : 3123 Join date : 2011-08-31 Location : I'm a butterfly.
| Subject: Re: Server for you guys Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:43 am | |
| - tacokingbob wrote:
- Dr.Mackeroth and fr0stbyte, will this become the official futurecraft server?I will give you guys IP and others on this forum.I will E-mail it send me a message for the IP tommorrow!
The official Futurecraft server is likely to have several hundred people on at once. Plus dozens of ships flying at any one time, and an untold number of robots and NPCs. Can your server support that? Also, just PM us the IP, no need for email. | |
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fr0stbyte124 Super Developrator
Posts : 1835 Join date : 2011-10-13
| Subject: Re: Server for you guys Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:05 am | |
| I don't think any one server will have all that many people on at the same time. That was sort of the point of splitting it all up. I mean I guess a single machine could run a bunch of server instances, but otherwise probably wouldn't happen. The very top level server won't be a standard minecraft instance either, but rather something to handle communication between servers. I don't know the details of ectrimble's master plan. | |
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The Schmetterling DEV
Posts : 3123 Join date : 2011-08-31 Location : I'm a butterfly.
| Subject: Re: Server for you guys Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:34 am | |
| - fr0stbyte124 wrote:
- I don't think any one server will have all that many people on at the same time. That was sort of the point of splitting it all up. I mean I guess a single machine could run a bunch of server instances, but otherwise probably wouldn't happen.
The very top level server won't be a standard minecraft instance either, but rather something to handle communication between servers. I don't know the details of ectrimble's master plan. Sorry, I haven't told anyone my plan for the Futurecraft Empire. There will be a head server, and a number of servers that will produce materials for the head server, in exchange for protection. It's an age-old technique, and it will work. The head server will need to be large, but not massive, as it will house a large collection of vessels, and government buildings, plus defences. There will not be much actually building taking place on this server, but it will be the place where people can contact the developers in-game. | |
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