Prototype's temporary and somewhat dissapointing development log

Christ that was fast.

The arms would have to be the same length (or I could hide tools inside the shoulders) but that would work well, and would be a fairly simple model.

Much appreciated.

Also, if you haven't already, check your PMs, I have a job for you.

So, just to clarify; if I gave you a techne file of a mech, you would run around in a circle screaming?

The Schmetterling wrote:

So, just to clarify; if I gave you a techne file of a mech, you would run around in a circle screaming?

Depends if it's workable, if you don't build it properly, it's a pain in the ass to implement.

I would rather have blueprints, I find it's better to build from the ground up rather than re work something someone has already made.


Just something else entirely different, as Flan now has working man able turret on planes, is anyone up for a full blown flying Frigate?

It might even be possible to walk around such a thing if hitboxes work in the way I think that do.

Prototype wrote:

Just something else entirely different, as Flan now has working man able turret on planes, is anyone up for a full blown flying Frigate?

It might even be possible to walk around such a thing if hitboxes work in the way I think that do.

Forgive my ignorance, but wouldn't such a big thing cause a bit of lag?

Daynel wrote:

Prototype wrote:

Just something else entirely different, as Flan now has working man able turret on planes, is anyone up for a full blown flying Frigate?

It might even be possible to walk around such a thing if hitboxes work in the way I think that do.

Forgive my ignorance, but wouldn't such a big thing cause a bit of lag?

Nope, I can't make a model big complex enough to start lagging the game more than a smaller model.

In theory it won't cause noticeable lag as it's still a single entity.

Something on this scale would have to be coded realy badly for you to start noticing lag. Computers are quite good at math.

Anyone wanting to see for themselves can spawn in ten or so of Manus's tanks (the ones with about 200 parts) and tell me I their game crashes.

This might be a viable mega project, so long as I can get these hitboxes done, then it would be perfectly viable, and would not be completely impractical. By the time it would be done, VTOL would be implemented so it would fly ok, and it would pretty much be why every faction in faction Flans servers grinds for (those that run it that is).

I wouldn't start this for a while, but if I was to try it at all, planning can start now.

I'm going to make UGF and SR mechs first, and I'll experiment with HD textures on the rocket pod (which I have to remodel as it was coded differently to the others, and that format is no longer supported).


But if anyone has built a ship in MC that they would like to see turned into a functional entity ship, then talk to me, once I confirm it's logistically possible, I'll probably host a vote as to what I make (it'll be based on a ship someone has made, that way I have the ultimate reference).

Small progress update, all guns (except the rocket pod which has to be remodelled) are now working in 1.6.4.

And I can make planes spawn, but they disappear instantly, much confuse.

Prototype wrote:

Anyone wanting to see for themselves can spawn in ten or so of Manus's tanks (the ones with about 200 parts) and tell me I their game crashes.

This might be a viable mega project, so long as I can get these hitboxes done, then it would be perfectly viable, and would not be completely impractical. By the time it would be done, VTOL would be implemented so it would fly ok, and it would pretty much be why every faction in faction Flans servers grinds for (those that run it that is).

I wouldn't start this for a while, but if I was to try it at all, planning can start now.

I'm going to make UGF and SR mechs first, and I'll experiment with HD textures on the rocket pod (which I have to remodel as it was coded differently to the others, and that format is no longer supported).


But if anyone has built a ship in MC that they would like to see turned into a functional entity ship, then talk to me, once I confirm it's logistically possible, I'll probably host a vote as to what I make (it'll be based on a ship someone has made, that way I have the ultimate reference).

How big are we talking? Because I have an army with a few vheciles and mechs that would be awesome to model.

Mack, if you want something made just sketch it out like everyone else and proto will get around to it. From what I've seen he has a workflow that externally modeled things tend to fuck up.

Also, I don't think the entity thing is possible. Just my chinese two cents, as it were...seems like if it were that simple there'd be a mod exploiting it by now.

Prototype wrote:

But if anyone has built a ship in MC that they would like to see turned into a functional entity ship, then talk to me, once I confirm it's logistically possible, I'll probably host a vote as to what I make (it'll be based on a ship someone has made, that way I have the ultimate reference).

I would put in one of my somethings abouts frigate size, but I think it'd be a tad too big, unless 100-200 block frigates are acceptable.

Tiel+ wrote:

Mack, if you want something made just sketch it out like everyone else and proto will get around to it. From what I've seen he has a workflow that externally modeled things tend to fuck up.

Also, I don't think the entity thing is possible. Just my chinese two cents, as it were...seems like if it were that simple there'd be a mod exploiting it by now.

It wouldn't quite be one you can walk around in freely, at least not while its moving.

I'll run a few tests with hit boxes once I get planes working properly to see if its feasible or not

managed to do a little work today, namely some slight improvements to Omega's model, and some texture editing.

I've also learnt that I have to nerf the ion engine, as I have found that mechs equipped with them can pretty much outrun bullets.

also all guns are in the actual MC pack (not in MCP anymore)

and I'm glad to say dual wielding SR grenade launchers is gloriously OP.

Prototype wrote:

I've also learnt that I have to nerf the ion engine, as I have found that mechs equipped with them can pretty much outrun bullets.

and I'm glad to say dual wielding SR grenade launchers is gloriously OP.

It's a Gundam!

I must ask about the design choice to make the head angled but its socket rectangular. Looks kind of odd.

Tiel+ wrote:

I must ask about the design choice to make the head angled but its socket rectangular. Looks kind of odd.

I'm trying to use a shapebox to replace the regular box there, just need to remember the parameters I used on the head.

and remember which shape the socket was...

only have 156 to choose from, going to get it right eventually...

Ok, got this head thing sorted, these shapeboxes are actually very useful.

Oh hells yes.

Looks spitze!

mechmechmech

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I'm actually pretty proud of this one. Not sure what to call it though.

MercurySteam wrote:

mechmechmech

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I'm actually pretty proud of this one. Not sure what to call it though.

Looks like an angry four eyed chicken with cannon arms.

Another one, if you don't want to use it for the NSCD then it can be a heavy armor or something

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The main problem I see with all these mechs is that they are all of the same two legged thingies with cannons instead of hands. You should have more variations in your design, such as the walker types that I like that are just platforms on legs (Arms overrated ! Who needs em if you can just put the cannons right below the cockpit ? ) or maybe drones on wheels and so on so that they won't be repetitive as they are right now.

Iv121 wrote:

The main problem I see with all these mechs is that they are all of the same two legged thingies with cannons instead of hands. You should have more variations in your design, such as the walker types that I like that are just platforms on legs (Arms overrated ! Who needs em if you can just put the cannons right below the cockpit ? ) or maybe drones on wheels and so on so that they won't be repetitive as they are right now.

I'm not sure Flans supports that.

Im sure he does, a wheeled mech is basically similar to a tank and can be probably classified like that, I also doubt you are forced to add hands to your mechs. Im wondering if floating mechs are possible BTW, they would be really effective in the minecraft terrain as they can easily float above blocks and thus scale standard MC terrain easily (BTW just float not fly, hover above the ground)