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Crafting
Tekkit Crafting Bench MKII
13%
 13% [ 3 ]
Golem-Style!
38%
 38% [ 9 ]
Normal
0%
 0% [ 0 ]
3d!
8%
 8% [ 2 ]
Other (Say in post)
4%
 4% [ 1 ]
I coudn't care less so I'll vote for SPAACEE COOKEIS!
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6D
21%
 21% [ 5 ]
New option, Larger grid (4x4, 9x9 etc)
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PostSubject: Alternative Crafting   Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:20 pm

fr0stbyte124 wrote:
And I could seriously care less about recipes. In fact, I'd like to see processes other than the crafting table take over. The "place the components like the object is shaped" thing was pretty novel, but it prevents crafting from ever feeling like it's on a grand scale, the kind we are trying to capture in this mod.

Sooooooo?? How do you think this should work?

Post ideas here:

(The golem idea is you build it, and it pops into being as an item, maybe near a crafting bench-style thing.)
(The crafting bench II thing is from tekkit, I forget how it works.)
(Normal is normal)
(3d would be a 3d crafting grid, with 27 lattice spaces. Not really useful.)
(Other is you specify, give your own ideas)
(Don't vote for space cookies. Really.)
(6D is fr0stbyte's dimension of choice)

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You know, I was thinking we should have a 3D crafting grid for complex recipes, but Kielaran is right: why have three dimensions when you can have six? Truly I don't know how we ever got by with a measly two.


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Now, if Fr0stbyte wrote that, someone would make a sig, guaranteed. So what are you going to do now?


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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Crafting   Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:26 pm

Well...To tekkit!
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Crafting   Sun Aug 05, 2012 4:57 pm

SPACE COOKIEZ ! I see my random vote became popular Smile .
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Crafting   Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:31 pm

Remember when when fr0stbyte said that, "Why have 3 dimensions when you can have 6? Truly I don't know how we ever got by with a measly two."

6D added. Fr0stbyte's dimensions of choice.
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Crafting   Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:59 pm

Crafting bench mk 11 shows all the things you can make with your current inventory and gives a short description of all items.
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Crafting   Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:26 am

The golem style crafting is an bad idea forsmall things like guns but you could probably use it for big things like engines

My favorite mthod would be double 2d crafting means you can switch the crafing table to complex and use an 9*9 grid this allows you to craft an whole gun in one piece and prevents that you have to produce 5 parts or so.Later you could even add nano crafting which means an 9*9*9 grid
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Crafting   Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:32 am

I think we just simply need a 4x4 crafting grid. Or possibly a 5x5.

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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Crafting   Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:59 am

Golem crafting works quite well, if you consider railcrafts coke oven and crush furnace.
I voted for it because I think it would be good for machines and larger devices.
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Crafting   Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:49 am

I agree.
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Crafting   Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:03 pm

I suggest golem crafting for machines and some advanced kind of table crafting for items.
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Crafting   Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:27 am

You should allow redos for the new added options
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Crafting   Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:31 am

I think we should try and stick kinda close to the ideas said in the OP for Futurecraft, despite how outdated it is. "Light" fighters, escape pods, guns, small turrets, and maybe tier one ship cores should be crafted. Heavier fighters, bigger turrets, and all the other tiers of ship core are massive enough that they cannon be conceivably crafted.
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Crafting   Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:54 am

Tyranid_Player wrote:
You should allow redos for the new added options

Redos allowed now.

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You know, I was thinking we should have a 3D crafting grid for complex recipes, but Kielaran is right: why have three dimensions when you can have six? Truly I don't know how we ever got by with a measly two.


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Now, if Fr0stbyte wrote that, someone would make a sig, guaranteed. So what are you going to do now?
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Crafting   Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:57 am

Keon wrote:
Tyranid_Player wrote:
You should allow redos for the new added options

Redos allowed now.

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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Crafting   Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:48 pm

I think we should have golem-style crafting for basic stuff, And a 6*6*6 3D crafting table for more complex stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Crafting   Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:52 pm

arsln100 wrote:
I think we should have golem-style crafting for basic stuff, And a 6*6*6 3D crafting table for more complex stuff.
Nah, definitely a 3x3x3x3x3x3 6D crafting table
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Crafting   Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:54 pm

Why only six? Can't we push it to twelve!
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Crafting   Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:55 pm

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arsln100 wrote:
I think we should have golem-style crafting for basic stuff, And a 6*6*6 3D crafting table for more complex stuff.
Nah, definitely a 3x3x3x3x3x3 6D crafting table


Ok 6*6*6*6*6*6 6D crafting table for a compromise?
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Crafting   Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:10 pm

Way 6*6 6D crafting might be implemented: We already have 2D crafting. That's a *6 grid. I'm guessing that 3D crafting would be a 6*6*6 cube, with a total of 216 slots, that you can rotate and place items in. The additional 3 dimensions could be: 3 1*6 crafting grids, representing one dimension each (it's a line), 6*6 grids, representing 2 dimensions each (duh), another cube, or some combination thereof. The other dimensions appear to float somewhere beyond the usual 3 in the crafting GUI, which by this point is almost a world by itself. You can just add more dimensions as you need them, either singly or in pairs or triplets, as we decide makes the most sense. The dimensions should probably be labeled (the first cube would have an axis numbered 1, an axis numbered 2, and an axis numbered 3, the next 1*6 grid is numbered 4, ect). It's important to note that even the 1-dimension grids are rendered in 3D; it's a physical thing that you can rotate the camera around.

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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Crafting   Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:59 am

The reason why we can't have 6D crafting: Earth humans only have 4 dimensions, if we include time, so they can't even imagine how 6D would be. 3D is the most advanced they can use.
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Crafting   Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:16 am

Hey if you can only see 3 dimensions doesn't mean you live in the 3rd dimension (Yea you can see only up to 3 dimensions, let's see you imagining 4D cube ) , if a paper man can see only 2 dimensions doesn't mean the paper can't contain depth. The only diff is that the paper man will see a 3D cube as a collection of squares and triangles, not a 3D shape.
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Crafting   Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:57 am

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The reason why we can't have 6D crafting: Earth humans only have 4 dimensions, if we include time, so they can't even imagine how 6D would be. 3D is the most advanced they can use.
Daynel wrote:
The reason why we can't have 6D crafting: Earth humans only have 4 dimensions, if we include time
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can't have 6D crafting: Earth humans only have 4 dimensions
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Earth humans

What does this have to do with us?

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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Crafting   Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:00 pm

Iv121 wrote:
Hey if you can only see 3 dimensions doesn't mean you live in the 3rd dimension (Yea you can see only up to 3 dimensions, let's see you imagining 4D cube ) , if a paper man can see only 2 dimensions doesn't mean the paper can't contain depth. The only diff is that the paper man will see a 3D cube as a collection of squares and triangles, not a 3D shape.
Well, Earth humans, and many other species, can't see more than 3 dimensions. We will lose quite a lot of users if we are using more dimensions than the least evolved users can see.
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Crafting   Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:20 pm

You can see a 4D cube, it will just look like a bunch of squares and triangles Razz .
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PostSubject: Re: Alternative Crafting   Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:37 pm

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You can see a 4D cube, it will just look like a bunch of squares and triangles Razz .
So you are telling me that most of the modern Earth art is 4D?
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