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Ivan2006 General
Posts : 2096 Join date : 2012-05-08 Age : 26 Location : The Dungeon.
| Subject: Mo. Generators! Sat Jun 16, 2012 2:09 pm | |
| I think we need a lot of different generators in order to power our spaceships properly. My Ideas would be: (besides of the ones already mentioned at the [outdated] summary) Fusion reactor: Like a thermonuke, just kept under controll. Naquadah GeneratorAntimatter Generator: E=mc² <-- bad Idea
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scout37 Recruit
Posts : 292 Join date : 2012-05-14 Location : Earth, in the most powerful and globally dominating country on the planet
| Subject: Re: Mo. Generators! Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:37 pm | |
| - Ivan2006 wrote:
- I think we need a lot of different generators in order to power our spaceships properly.
My Ideas would be: (besides of the ones already mentioned at the [outdated] summary)
Fusion reactor: Like a thermonuke, just kept under controll.
Naquadah Generator
Antimatter Generator: E=mc² I think that we have enough generators as-is. fusion reactors are too much like a nuclear reactor. And E=mc2 is the formula for energy and matter conversion. No relation to anti matter at all. | |
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Ivan2006 General
Posts : 2096 Join date : 2012-05-08 Age : 26 Location : The Dungeon.
| Subject: Re: Mo. Generators! Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:42 pm | |
| - scout37 wrote:
- Ivan2006 wrote:
- I think we need a lot of different generators in order to power our spaceships properly.
My Ideas would be: (besides of the ones already mentioned at the [outdated] summary)
Fusion reactor: Like a thermonuke, just kept under controll.
Naquadah Generator
Antimatter Generator: E=mc² I think that we have enough generators as-is. fusion reactors are too much like a nuclear reactor.
And E=mc2 is the formula for energy and matter conversion. No relation to anti matter at all. There is! Antimatter+Matter=E and E=mc² is the formula to calculate the ammount of energy you get. | |
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scout37 Recruit
Posts : 292 Join date : 2012-05-14 Location : Earth, in the most powerful and globally dominating country on the planet
| Subject: Re: Mo. Generators! Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:45 pm | |
| - Ivan2006 wrote:
- scout37 wrote:
- Ivan2006 wrote:
- I think we need a lot of different generators in order to power our spaceships properly.
My Ideas would be: (besides of the ones already mentioned at the [outdated] summary)
Fusion reactor: Like a thermonuke, just kept under controll.
Naquadah Generator
Antimatter Generator: E=mc² I think that we have enough generators as-is. fusion reactors are too much like a nuclear reactor.
And E=mc2 is the formula for energy and matter conversion. No relation to anti matter at all. There is! Antimatter+Matter=E and E=mc² is the formula to calculate the ammount of energy you get. Wait, but how can energy be created? Nothing can equal E, because E cannot be created nor destroyed. GAHHH!!!! WE ARE BREAKING THE LAWS OF PHYSICS!!! | |
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bsb23 Newbie
Posts : 59 Join date : 2012-04-28
| Subject: Re: Mo. Generators! Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:07 pm | |
| E is contained within matter and antimatter in the form of photons. These photons are released during the reaction. nothing is being created just released. This is a very good fuel source though about 1 kg (2.2 lbs.) of each releases over 180,000,000,000,000,000 Joules almost the equivalent of the Tsar bomb. | |
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bsb23 Newbie
Posts : 59 Join date : 2012-04-28
| Subject: Re: Mo. Generators! Sat Jun 16, 2012 7:54 pm | |
| Just copying off wikipedia more or less. Here is one quote... - Spoiler:
In matter-antimatter collisions resulting in photon emission, the entire rest mass of the particles is converted to kinetic energy.
Here is another... - Spoiler:
Furthermore, mixing matter and antimatter can lead to the annihilation of both, in the same way that mixing antiparticles and particles does, thus giving rise to high-energy photons (gamma rays) or other particle–antiparticle pairs. The result of antimatter meeting matter is an explosion.
And another I found interesting... - Spoiler:
Not all of that energy can be utilized by any realistic propulsion technology because, while electron-positron reactions result in gamma ray photons, in reactions between protons and antiprotons, their energy is converted into relativistic neutral and charged pions. While the neutral pions decay into high-energy photons, the charged pions decay into a combination of neutrinos (carrying about 22% of the energy of the charged pions) and unstable charged muons (carrying about 78% of the charged pion energy), with the muons then decaying into a combination of electrons, positrons and neutrinos (cf. muon decay; the neutrinos from this decay carry about 2/3 of the energy of the muons, meaning that from the original charged pions, the total fraction of their energy converted to neutrinos by one route or another would be about 0.22 + (2/3)*0.78 = 0.74). Gamma radiation can be largely absorbed and converted into heat energy, although some is bound to be lost. Neutrinos very rarely interact with any form of matter, so for all intents and purposes, the energy converted into neutrinos can be considered to be lost.
Note that might be able to fixed in the future. Oh and I'll do an offsite quote for any wikipedia haters... - Spoiler:
particle and its antimatter particle annihilate when they meet: they disappear and their kinetic plus rest-mass energy is converted into other particles (E = mc2). For example, when an electron and a positron annihilate at rest, two gamma rays, each with energy 511 keV, are produced.
Found on the Lawrence Radiation Laboratory site it said .gov in the address so I doubt it would be false | |
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The Schmetterling DEV
Posts : 3123 Join date : 2011-08-31 Location : I'm a butterfly.
| Subject: Re: Mo. Generators! Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:22 am | |
| I wonder what happens when energy and anti-energy meet... | |
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Cheatmaster Recruit
Posts : 258 Join date : 2012-04-30 Location : Well... Here
| Subject: Re: Mo. Generators! Sun Jun 17, 2012 3:17 am | |
| - Mackeroth? wrote:
- I wonder what happens when energy and anti-energy meet...
There is no Anti-energy there is 1 and 0 not -1 And to say this again NO ANTIMATTER You would have to separate single Radioactive Atoms which decay with ß+ and ß- and then you would have to capture the emitted Anti-Protons and Anti-Electrons and keep them from every collision. | |
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Ivan2006 General
Posts : 2096 Join date : 2012-05-08 Age : 26 Location : The Dungeon.
| Subject: Re: Mo. Generators! Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:06 am | |
| - Cheatmaster wrote:
- Mackeroth? wrote:
- I wonder what happens when energy and anti-energy meet...
There is no Anti-energy there is 1 and 0 not -1
And to say this again NO ANTIMATTER You would have to separate single Radioactive Atoms which decay with ß+ and ß- and then you would have to capture the emitted Anti-Protons and Anti-Electrons and keep them from every collision. And we´re back to the discussion that from here. Please don´t start it again, It took 5 pages and then the discussion still didn´t come to any conclusion! | |
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Cheatmaster Recruit
Posts : 258 Join date : 2012-04-30 Location : Well... Here
| Subject: Re: Mo. Generators! Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:18 am | |
| Then Eradicate your Antimatter engine or I will Revive it | |
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Ivan2006 General
Posts : 2096 Join date : 2012-05-08 Age : 26 Location : The Dungeon.
| Subject: Re: Mo. Generators! Sun Jun 17, 2012 4:21 am | |
| - Cheatmaster wrote:
- Then Eradicate your Antimatter engine or I will Revive it
done! | |
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The Schmetterling DEV
Posts : 3123 Join date : 2011-08-31 Location : I'm a butterfly.
| Subject: Re: Mo. Generators! Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:16 am | |
| - Cheatmaster wrote:
- Mackeroth? wrote:
- I wonder what happens when energy and anti-energy meet...
There is no Anti-energy there is 1 and 0 not -1
And to say this again NO ANTIMATTER You would have to separate single Radioactive Atoms which decay with ß+ and ß- and then you would have to capture the emitted Anti-Protons and Anti-Electrons and keep them from every collision. And the problem with that would be...? Don't argue with me. Believe me: I tried, it's impossible. | |
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Cheatmaster Recruit
Posts : 258 Join date : 2012-04-30 Location : Well... Here
| Subject: Re: Mo. Generators! Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:52 am | |
| - Mackeroth? wrote:
- Cheatmaster wrote:
- Mackeroth? wrote:
- I wonder what happens when energy and anti-energy meet...
There is no Anti-energy there is 1 and 0 not -1
And to say this again NO ANTIMATTER You would have to separate single Radioactive Atoms which decay with ß+ and ß- and then you would have to capture the emitted Anti-Protons and Anti-Electrons and keep them from every collision.
And the problem with that would be...?
Don't argue with me. Believe me: I tried, it's impossible. There can´t be any Antienergy because Energy has no clear (google tells me to use this) redefining. You can Neutralize energy for example if you move 2 things at eachother but you would have moved both you wouldn´t have antimoved 1. Its kinda why there isn´t any Anti-Energy. | |
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ACH0225 General
Posts : 2346 Join date : 2012-01-01 Location : I might be somewhere, I might not.
| Subject: Re: Mo. Generators! Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:47 am | |
| - Cheatmaster wrote:
- Mackeroth? wrote:
- Cheatmaster wrote:
- Mackeroth? wrote:
- I wonder what happens when energy and anti-energy meet...
There is no Anti-energy there is 1 and 0 not -1
And to say this again NO ANTIMATTER You would have to separate single Radioactive Atoms which decay with ß+ and ß- and then you would have to capture the emitted Anti-Protons and Anti-Electrons and keep them from every collision.
And the problem with that would be...?
Don't argue with me. Believe me: I tried, it's impossible. There can´t be any Antienergy because Energy has no clear (google tells me to use this) redefining. You can Neutralize energy for example if you move 2 things at eachother but you would have moved both you wouldn´t have antimoved 1. Its kinda why there isn´t any Anti-Energy.
You DO realize that anyone with half a brain can say that on google? | |
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Keon Lord/Lady Rear Admiral 1st
Posts : 3076 Join date : 2012-01-17 Location : Hahahaha.
| Subject: Re: Mo. Generators! Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:45 am | |
| There is negative energy. It's produced from using ZPMs, I think. | |
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Cheatmaster Recruit
Posts : 258 Join date : 2012-04-30 Location : Well... Here
| Subject: Re: Mo. Generators! Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:43 am | |
| - Keon wrote:
- There is negative energy. It's produced from using ZPMs, I think.
If you mean the Zero-Point-Module from Stargate. No | |
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Keon Lord/Lady Rear Admiral 1st
Posts : 3076 Join date : 2012-01-17 Location : Hahahaha.
| Subject: Re: Mo. Generators! Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:56 am | |
| - Cheatmaster wrote:
- Keon wrote:
- There is negative energy. It's produced from using ZPMs, I think.
If you mean the Zero-Point-Module from Stargate. No
No, I mean Zero-Point Modules from Earth and now. Click | |
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Cheatmaster Recruit
Posts : 258 Join date : 2012-04-30 Location : Well... Here
| Subject: Re: Mo. Generators! Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:08 pm | |
| - Keon wrote:
- Cheatmaster wrote:
- Keon wrote:
- There is negative energy. It's produced from using ZPMs, I think.
If you mean the Zero-Point-Module from Stargate. No
No, I mean Zero-Point Modules from Earth and now.
Click Which negative energy? I can´t find anything like this in the German entry. The ZPM are simply using an vacuum effect. | |
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The Schmetterling DEV
Posts : 3123 Join date : 2011-08-31 Location : I'm a butterfly.
| Subject: Re: Mo. Generators! Sun Jun 17, 2012 6:26 pm | |
| - Keon wrote:
- There is negative energy. It's produced from using ZPMs, I think.
Not the ones from Stargate. In real life, negative energy is a way of proving that ZPE exists. ZPMs just use the energy of a vacuum. | |
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Cheatmaster Recruit
Posts : 258 Join date : 2012-04-30 Location : Well... Here
| Subject: Re: Mo. Generators! Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:44 am | |
| - Mackeroth? wrote:
- Keon wrote:
- There is negative energy. It's produced from using ZPMs, I think.
Not the ones from Stargate. In real life, negative energy is a way of proving that ZPE exists. ZPMs just use the energy of a vacuum. It isn´t negative energy it is an effect provided by the uncertainty principle. | |
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The Schmetterling DEV
Posts : 3123 Join date : 2011-08-31 Location : I'm a butterfly.
| Subject: Re: Mo. Generators! Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:29 pm | |
| - Cheatmaster wrote:
- Mackeroth? wrote:
- Keon wrote:
- There is negative energy. It's produced from using ZPMs, I think.
Not the ones from Stargate. In real life, negative energy is a way of proving that ZPE exists. ZPMs just use the energy of a vacuum. It isn´t negative energy it is an effect provided by the uncertainty principle.
It is negative energy. Don't make me dig up a quote. | |
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