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+8Groot Laserbilly Iv121 Joel Tiel+ Tau Caramell Saravanth 12 posters |
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Should I Make More? | Yes | | 31% | [ 4 ] | No | | 15% | [ 2 ] | If You Improve Them, Yes | | 54% | [ 7 ] | Other (Post Below) | | 0% | [ 0 ] |
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Joel Marine
Posts : 1473 Join date : 2012-04-01 Age : 27 Location : A Death World, stopping a Waaagh!
| Subject: So A Neat Comic Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:55 am | |
| I was bored at like 10:30 PM (it's almost 3:00 AM now) and decided to start a comic series, I'm calling it Memoriam. Let me know what you think and for once I welcome your harsh criticism with open eyes and mind (unless it has to do with the unresized frame or the misplaced 'c' in the title, that was entirely my fault and am aware of it). - Spoiler:
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Iv121 General
Posts : 2396 Join date : 2012-02-05 Location : -> HERE ! <-
| Subject: Re: So A Neat Comic Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:58 am | |
| Well I don't know, it feels sort of empty, as if too large chucks of the plot are missing. Also you maybe tried to make me feel something towards the protagonist or the squad but if they just refer to each other by numbers it is hard to feel something. In general it is hard to feel something if that something hides it's face all the time, it alienates that person and unless you add powerful character to that person it will be hard to identify with that character. Also you feel like you are thrown into that place without knowing crucial things about that universe. As for the characters themselves they don't behave in a believable manner which also detaches you from the story. In general it is hard to say anything about that because it was too short.
Also late night might not be the best time to do things, when you do them while you're tired you end up with not as good results.
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Saravanth Recruit
Posts : 287 Join date : 2012-09-08 Location : *snap snap*
| Subject: Re: So A Neat Comic Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:05 am | |
| - Iv121 wrote:
- In general it is hard to feel something if that something hides it's face all the time
*ahem* master chief *ahem*As for everything else, I agree with Iv. | |
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Iv121 General
Posts : 2396 Join date : 2012-02-05 Location : -> HERE ! <-
| Subject: Re: So A Neat Comic Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:16 am | |
| Well you didn't quite feel for master chief, he is there to murder after all, his relation with a comp AI was an exception more due to Cortana being a dominant character. thank god master chief speaks at least, try feel something for Gordon Freeman and that guy doesn't even wear a mask | |
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Tiel+ Lord/Lady Rear Admiral 1st
Posts : 5497 Join date : 2012-02-20 Age : 27 Location : AFK
| Subject: Re: So A Neat Comic Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:03 pm | |
| Dialogue bubbles are intrusive, lose the color and just go with generic white and black. Other than that, better story than anything else outputted by this community. | |
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Iv121 General
Posts : 2396 Join date : 2012-02-05 Location : -> HERE ! <-
| Subject: Re: So A Neat Comic Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:21 pm | |
| Not bad considering there is actually no story here so far , though the colors are a good point. | |
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Joel Marine
Posts : 1473 Join date : 2012-04-01 Age : 27 Location : A Death World, stopping a Waaagh!
| Subject: Re: So A Neat Comic Wed Aug 14, 2013 2:59 pm | |
| - Me Responding To Your Feedback (The One You WANT To Read):
Thank you so much for all your feedback, although, I am going to clarify one thing now that I actually remember it (I had prepared to write it earlier, but never got around to posting it) the comic shifts around to different members of different crews in the fleet, currently I have a grand total of a possible 2490 editions. I was sort of wondering about the speech bubbles, but I couldn't think of a way to do them without color coding them as I can't find a way to make normal speech bubbles without making them look absolutely horrendous  , but it was good to know that they were a bit much. Although since I can't really make them well the 'normal way' I can make them anything else, I'll try some things next edition and I'll see what you think on about some prerelease frames. Something funny: The 3 bubbles in the second frame (with Yuriko walking) are actually covering up something that took me longer than anything else in that scene  . Next one is about an ODST.
- Me Getting Defensive (The One You DON'T Want To Read):
I'm just gonna give ya' an abridged version of how I was sort of trying to make this play out: In the title the name of this edition is 'Flashback', implying that some sort of flashback will happen, although I understand this may have been hard to completely understand as looking back that font isn't the kind to be made that small. But aside from that, the 'main character' is standing next to the holo tank (not everyone would get this, I know, but for future reference until it is said in the comic, a holo tank is where a ship's AI data chip is placed. Also, since some people might be confused with a brand new universe and knowing I it would make the comic easily 5x larger plus finding props and character models would be a pain and to my knowledge no one here can make models suitable for anything other than Minecraft, but I decided to use the Halo Universe for the very high amount of props from Halo at my disposal. Still, anyways, when Yuriko B820 (Spartans IIs and IIIs are referred to by their first name/nickname and/or 'their number' which is their candidate number) is talking with Ori (the ship's AI) on the bridge, Yuriko tells Ori that she "hasn't looked out that viewport since her team died," bluntly implying that it is going to be Yuriko's flashback if the reader picked up on the flashback earlier. When Ori calls a shipwide-battlestations call because, they were going to fight some rebels (Insurrectionists, this happens during the first stages of the Human-Covenant War because needle rifle), Yuriko requests a private pelican to presumably drop in a much more dangerous area, and on her way, she remembers more about her old team then like most people who are grieving she wonders what she could have done differently (although they died nearly a while ago and she is a Spartan, but during training she formed a bond with the others, which also made their combat effectiveness better, leading to all of them being put in the same team (Iota Squad). After walking to the hangar deck (the presence of Master Chief Petty Officer of The Navy John S117 is for comical reasons and was placed on the set before I even thought of the comic, but later during shooting I forgot to remove him and decided "eh" and didn't in the initial hangar screenshot but then I did later in the second hangar shot), she experiences the flash back. The team had just dropped onto a presumably hostile planet, but this being Yuriko's first real drop (as implied in her voiceover in orange background like her speech earlier) she vomited while the rest kept cover, but when the-rocket-launcher-guy was headshotted by a sniper, using a needle rifle (this morning I went on a spree getting more props, making actually showing a sniper feasible this time) where he falls dead and Yuriko talks about his death rattle while flashback her performs a counter-sniping maneuver, killing the sniper. But then Chrissina is shot and killed by another sniper (I couldn't draw a needle due to perspective reasons) and then Yuriko takes cover behind her drop pod, and exposes a whole heap of snipers ready to blow her brains out with bright pink doom. Yuriko then realizes that she doesn't remember how she escaped (in the next edition this is explained a bit more). The flashback ends and she is standing in the hangar, where she doesn't remember how she arrived on this ship (again, explained more in next comic). Next comic is an ODST.
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MercurySteam Infantry
Posts : 543 Join date : 2013-06-22
| Subject: Re: So A Neat Comic Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:59 pm | |
| Bungie fucked up with Reach and 343 screwed the franchise even more with H4. That's all. | |
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Iv121 General
Posts : 2396 Join date : 2012-02-05 Location : -> HERE ! <-
| Subject: Re: So A Neat Comic Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:46 pm | |
| Well I tried to read your passage but I couldn’t because that was too much text together, I lost where I read and generally hard to read that, could you break it into pars and maybe bigger spacing pls ? I should really start doing it in my story too but t least I break it into pars. | |
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Joel Marine
Posts : 1473 Join date : 2012-04-01 Age : 27 Location : A Death World, stopping a Waaagh!
| Subject: Re: So A Neat Comic Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:08 pm | |
| @Iv Which one? The one labeled "The One You WANT To Read" or the one labeled "The One You DON'T Want To Read"? On a side note, I tried a new speech bubble style on the second one. Let me know if I should keep it like this or try something else. (The specific title's font is different every edition.) (I am aware of the mislinked dialogue, it will be fixed in the proper release.) - Scorched Prerelease:
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Iv121 General
Posts : 2396 Join date : 2012-02-05 Location : -> HERE ! <-
| Subject: Re: So A Neat Comic Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:43 pm | |
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Joel Marine
Posts : 1473 Join date : 2012-04-01 Age : 27 Location : A Death World, stopping a Waaagh!
| Subject: Re: So A Neat Comic Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:08 pm | |
| @Iv "The Big One" is "The One You DON'T Want To Read" and it was labeled as such for a purpose. Plus it contains plot points. - Scorched Part 1 Release:
- Sneak Peak of Part 2:
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Caramell Sergeant
Posts : 955 Join date : 2012-06-20 Age : 26 Location : Neo Seoul
| Subject: Re: So A Neat Comic Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:57 am | |
| Starting to look better, but still no real story as far as I can see. | |
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Iv121 General
Posts : 2396 Join date : 2012-02-05 Location : -> HERE ! <-
| Subject: Re: So A Neat Comic Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:43 am | |
| These other fonts are just either hard or annoying to read, stick to one easy to read font. As for the contents it still feels cut out and too short, maybe you should collect more pictures together before posting them. | |
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Tau Infantry
Posts : 517 Join date : 2012-01-16 Age : 25 Location : Ancapistan
| Subject: Re: So A Neat Comic Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:44 am | |
| You may want to try Trebuchet MS, which happens to be my preferred font. | |
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Groot Marine
Posts : 1456 Join date : 2012-03-18 Age : 28 Location : Yggdrasil
| Subject: Re: So A Neat Comic Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:04 pm | |
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Tiel+ Lord/Lady Rear Admiral 1st
Posts : 5497 Join date : 2012-02-20 Age : 27 Location : AFK
| Subject: Re: So A Neat Comic Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:49 pm | |
| - Daynel wrote:
- Starting to look better, but still no real story as far as I can see.
Still conveyed better than any other story created by this community. | |
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Iv121 General
Posts : 2396 Join date : 2012-02-05 Location : -> HERE ! <-
| Subject: Re: So A Neat Comic Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:26 pm | |
| Yea yea we know your hatred speeches Tiel, all that was said here so far fits in less than a paragraph, by lying to Vinyl just to advance your own positions you will only ruin the comic, better tell the truth. Even though comics are much more short and visualized you still need to make them of some size in order to convey a good story, again try bunching up more pictures together, it will take longer but it will be worth it as otherwise you just won't have enough space to convey your story | |
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Tiel+ Lord/Lady Rear Admiral 1st
Posts : 5497 Join date : 2012-02-20 Age : 27 Location : AFK
| Subject: Re: So A Neat Comic Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:16 pm | |
| - Iv121 wrote:
- Yea yea we know your hatred speeches Tiel, all that was said here so far fits in less than a paragraph, by lying to Vinyl just to advance your own positions you will only ruin the comic, better tell the truth. Even though comics are much more short and visualized you still need to make them of some size in order to convey a good story, again try bunching up more pictures together, it will take longer but it will be worth it as otherwise you just won't have enough space to convey your story
..the f**k are you going on about? | |
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Groot Marine
Posts : 1456 Join date : 2012-03-18 Age : 28 Location : Yggdrasil
| Subject: Re: So A Neat Comic Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:20 pm | |
| - Comrade Tiel wrote:
- Iv121 wrote:
- Yea yea we know your hatred speeches Tiel, all that was said here so far fits in less than a paragraph, by lying to Vinyl just to advance your own positions you will only ruin the comic, better tell the truth. Even though comics are much more short and visualized you still need to make them of some size in order to convey a good story, again try bunching up more pictures together, it will take longer but it will be worth it as otherwise you just won't have enough space to convey your story
..the f**k are you going on about? Think he is saying you were being sarcastic, I think. | |
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Last_Jedi_Standing Moderator
Posts : 3033 Join date : 2012-02-19 Age : 112 Location : Coruscant
| Subject: Re: So A Neat Comic Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:24 pm | |
| - Iv121 wrote:
- by lying to Vinyl just to advance your own positions
Are you high or something? | |
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Iv121 General
Posts : 2396 Join date : 2012-02-05 Location : -> HERE ! <-
| Subject: Re: So A Neat Comic Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:25 pm | |
| Thx LJS we all know which story he is implying lets not play it dumb ... Paranoid or not there is only one other story so yup and no I don't think that comic has a story yet because as I explained it was too short for that, no point in arguing on that . | |
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Groot Marine
Posts : 1456 Join date : 2012-03-18 Age : 28 Location : Yggdrasil
| Subject: Re: So A Neat Comic Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:28 pm | |
| - Iv121 wrote:
- Thx LJS we all know which story he is implying lets not play it dumb ... Paranoid or not there is only one other story so yup and no I don't think that comic has a story yet because as I explained it was too short for that, no point in arguing on that .
I believe he was on about the RP, I've never seen Tiel have a problem with your story, I have seen him have problems with the RPs, they are technically stories just in case you though you were the only one who writes stories. | |
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Iv121 General
Posts : 2396 Join date : 2012-02-05 Location : -> HERE ! <-
| Subject: Re: So A Neat Comic Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:31 pm | |
| Well if no harm is intended so be it no harm taken even if there was harm I won't take it but I don't like the idea of praising the weak spots of that creation. Also they are not exactly the same stories, for example the empire RP is more of a political game. As for the other RPs they weren't designed to be stories either , they are might be a collection of short tales linked together but they are hard to follow as whole, they are a lil different kind I believe | |
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Groot Marine
Posts : 1456 Join date : 2012-03-18 Age : 28 Location : Yggdrasil
| Subject: Re: So A Neat Comic Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:34 pm | |
| The main one is, but ones like Grounded, Outpost 19 and the current one are more storylike. | |
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