(Theroretical) physics in Futurecraft

This is a semi-serious topic for people post calculation they make for various parts of Futurecraft (that you know about). Stuff like how much damage a MAC could do, how much energy would be required to make an assault fly, the amount of time it would require to mine enough ore for a drop-ship. That kind of stuff.

Lets first agree on a base energy measure and build from there. Lets say that each coal would create 1000 e/u when burned in a generator. The coal would burn for 80 seconds, just like in a regular furnace. This means that coal burns at a rate of 1000/80 = 12.5 eu/s or .625 eu/t (eu/s: energy units per second, eu/t: energy units per tick).

Energy Sources
Coal - 1000 at .625 eu/t (Thermal Generator)
Uranium Cell - 115,000 at 2.5 eu/t (Nuclear Generator)
Hydrogen Cell - 300 at 5 eu/t (Thermal Generator)
Solar Generator- .125 eu/t
Rechargeable Electric Cell - 12,500 eu



Equipment Usage
Electric Furnace - .5 eu/t
Quarry Drill - 2 eu/t
Hydrolysis Reactor - .5 eu/t; produces hydrogen for one cell every 533 ticks


Would someone please double check my math? I'm only in Algebra II (I'm in 10th grade, but this is an 11th grade class). I am intending to have one coal equal three hydrogen fuel cells with a loss of 10.000 repeating percent energy. I am basing my tick value off of the minecraft tick being 1/20 of a second. Also, I would like to know what you think of the balance of these base energy levels. Now that this is done, we can do the easy stuff like saying "anti-matter" is worth 1000 coal or whatever instead of thinking in energy units.

tonyri wrote:

Lets first agree on a base energy measure and build from there. Lets say that each coal would create 1000 e/u when burned in a generator. The coal would burn for 80 seconds, just like in a regular furnace. This means that coal burns at a rate of 1000/80 = 12.5 eu/s or .625 eu/t (eu/s: energy units per second, eu/t: energy units per tick).

Energy Sources
Coal - 1000 at .625 eu/t (Thermal Generator)
Uranium Cell - 115,000 at 2.5 eu/t (Nuclear Generator)
Hydrogen Cell - 300 at 5 eu/t (Thermal Generator)
Solar Generator- .125 eu/t
Rechargeable Electric Cell - 12,500 eu



Equipment Usage
Electric Furnace - .5 eu/t
Quarry Drill - 2 eu/t
Hydrolysis Reactor - .5 eu/t; produces hydrogen for one cell every 533 ticks


Would someone please double check my math? I'm only in Algebra II (I'm in 10th grade, but this is an 11th grade class). I am intending to have one coal equal three hydrogen fuel cells with a loss of 10.000 repeating percent energy. I am basing my tick value off of the minecraft tick being 1/20 of a second. Also, I would like to know what you think of the balance of these base energy levels. Now that this is done, we can do the easy stuff like saying "anti-matter" is worth 1000 coal or whatever instead of thinking in energy units.

Are we talking IC2's eu? Because then coal makes 4000.

Edit: BTW, good job on getting hydrogen right. Hydrogen isn't a fuel source, its a battery. It takes more energy to extract hydrogen from water than you get burning it.

Buggy1997123 wrote:

tonyri wrote:

Lets first agree on a base energy measure and build from there. Lets say that each coal would create 1000 e/u when burned in a generator. The coal would burn for 80 seconds, just like in a regular furnace. This means that coal burns at a rate of 1000/80 = 12.5 eu/s or .625 eu/t (eu/s: energy units per second, eu/t: energy units per tick).

Energy Sources
Coal - 1000 at .625 eu/t (Thermal Generator)
Uranium Cell - 115,000 at 2.5 eu/t (Nuclear Generator)
Hydrogen Cell - 300 at 5 eu/t (Thermal Generator)
Solar Generator- .125 eu/t
Rechargeable Electric Cell - 12,500 eu



Equipment Usage
Electric Furnace - .5 eu/t
Quarry Drill - 2 eu/t
Hydrolysis Reactor - .5 eu/t; produces hydrogen for one cell every 533 ticks


Would someone please double check my math? I'm only in Algebra II (I'm in 10th grade, but this is an 11th grade class). I am intending to have one coal equal three hydrogen fuel cells with a loss of 10.000 repeating percent energy. I am basing my tick value off of the minecraft tick being 1/20 of a second. Also, I would like to know what you think of the balance of these base energy levels. Now that this is done, we can do the easy stuff like saying "anti-matter" is worth 1000 coal or whatever instead of thinking in energy units.

Are we talking IC2's eu? Because then coal makes 4000.

Edit: BTW, good job on getting hydrogen right. Hydrogen isn't a fuel source, its a battery. It takes more energy to extract hydrogen from water than you get burning it.

What I was going for is if you took one coal and burned it to make hydrogen, then burned the hydrogen, it would create a loss of energy. With the burning speed, I have hydrogen burning much faster than coal, which it does in real life. We can change the values to whatever we want as long as the ratio stays the same.

Two very important things:
1- I am using a per-second basis for power, not per-tick
2- You may want to see the current power values (due to change as soon as Fr0stbyte and I can agree on how best to change them)



Consumable energy
this will mean that mechanical devices will use up energy. There are several
ways to power devices:


·
Batteries, they store 500 energy units. As
they only can be used on fighters and robots, the amount of energy they put out
is irrelevant. Rechargeable batteries would also be creatable, and you would
put them in a “battery recharger” device (block) that would require a constant
input of power, and be able to store several (rechargeable) batteries.


·
Vehicle
batteries, they store 5000 energy units. They release energy at 5-50 energy
units per second, depending on the requirements of the devices they are
powering.


·
Generator, give it fuel (coal, wood,
bookshelves, etc.) for each “use” that they would normally have in a furnace,
they produce 50 energy units, at a rate of ten seconds, like burning something
in the furnace.


·
Solar panels, needs to be outside, generates 10
units of energy per second, per block


·
Nuclear fission reactor generates 1000 energy
units for every lump of uranium put into it. The small one (1x1x1 block) puts
it out at a rate of 10 units per second, while the large one (2x2x2 blocks) put
it out at 100 units per second


·
Fuel rods made from uranium or plutonium, can be
put into either reactor for 5,000 energy units each (burns at the same rate).


·
ZPM (Zero Point Module), draws energy directly
from sub-space, 1,000,000,000 units of energy, stores its energy, and can be
released at any rate.




All of the energy sources would need to be directly linked to the device(s)
that they are powering by a special mix of Redstone, diamond and iron piping. For the fighter space ship, and other vehicles (as you can't place any of these blocks in it, and it can't have a line of wire connecting it to a power device), you must place vehicle batteries in its inventory (similar tocoal in a plane from the planes mod)




I think that some sort of
capacitors, that can hold a large charge and release it all at once, or at any
rate required, could be useful. Possibly a capacitor for 1 000, 5 000, and 10
000 EU storage, as well as the 3 000 EU capacitor on an Accelerator Cannon
(specifically for the cannon though).

Ok now we have to decide on who's power values are more balanced; mine or yours. Also, one second equals 20 ticks. It is just easier to program ticks than seconds, but we can display whatever you want to in the actual game. You are suggesting that every item burns at the same speed. Also, I don't quite understand the difference between the many "batteries" in your post.

neat

Thunder, if the mods return you'll be banned into oblivion.

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Tiel never posted in this topic. Strange.

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Forum Hermit wrote:

Tiel never posted in this topic. Strange.

This topic is from the B.T. Era. Before Tiel.

Ahhhhh, those were the good ol' days. When Daman had the most posts @ 142 XD

Ohai. BTW Thunder banned for necroposting.

FEN-8001 wrote:

Ohai. BTW Thunder banned for necroposting.

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