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PostSubject: Area /b/ Declassification   Sat Dec 01, 2012 8:15 pm

I am suggesting that Area /b/ is unclassified and revealed to the public NOW. We have nothing needing hiding in there. And it should be declassified forever.
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PostSubject: Re: Area 51 Declassification   Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:27 pm

Yeah. This was part of the proposal actually, that Area 51 be removed and the threads divided between the Courts and the Development area. There's nothing in there that's actually worth hiding. I would be working on that myself but I can't move threads from there.

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PostSubject: Re: Area 51 Declassification   Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:32 pm

Can we have a "Forum Area" where things that aren't related to justice or development go?
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PostSubject: Re: Area 51 Declassification   Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:33 pm

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Can we have a "Forum Area" where things that aren't related to justice or development go?
Should probably be the Member's Lounge.

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PostSubject: Re: Area 51 Declassification   Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:44 pm

Last_Jedi_Standing wrote:
catsonmeth wrote:
Can we have a "Forum Area" where things that aren't related to justice or development go?
Should probably be the Member's Lounge.

More formal than the member's lounge. Where the workings of the forum are discussed and suggestions are made.
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PostSubject: Re: Area 51 Declassification   Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:00 pm

Member's Lounge is pretty much the formal version of Offtopic Area tongue
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PostSubject: Area 51 Declassification   Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:01 pm

catsonmeth wrote:
Last_Jedi_Standing wrote:
catsonmeth wrote:
Can we have a "Forum Area" where things that aren't related to justice or development go?
Should probably be the Member's Lounge.

More formal than the member's lounge. Where the workings of the forum are discussed and suggestions are made.
That should be the Member's Lounge. Most of the stuff in there really belongs in Off-Topic. Actually, I might move some of it later. I dunno.

EDIT: Dammit, Tiel.

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PostSubject: Re: Area 51 Declassification   Sun Dec 02, 2012 6:08 am

I have mixed feeling for this, but I'd rather it stay hidden. It is Area 51 afterall.

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PostSubject: Re: Area 51 Declassification   Sun Dec 02, 2012 10:51 am

Well, I'm all for useful information...
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PostSubject: Re: Area 51 Declassification   Sun Dec 02, 2012 11:34 am

I believe most discussions in area 51 could be discussed in any other forum. I understand the need in such section but I warn that it might bring bad tendencies to the community. Currently we are too small for it to have any weight or danger. I saw bigger communities crashed by such things. The actual forum is not bad, it's just a tool. Problem was it was used inappropriately for conspiracy among the higher echelon of the community I was used to be in - constant discussions about acting against people from the community, secretly held away from the rest of the community until the specific player is getting banned, sometimes with no reason..

Specific limitations should be applied to the forum section. It's alright to post new passwords let's say for the forum or financial stuff once we get to maintain servers, but acts against users and new rules must only be discussed on open public forums.
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PostSubject: Re: Area 51 Declassification   Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:19 pm

I think 51 should remain classified. The devs should always have a place to speak amongst themselves. If they don't, another will be found.
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PostSubject: Re: Area 51 Declassification   Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:39 pm

catsonmeth wrote:
I think 51 should remain classified. The devs should always have a place to speak amongst themselves. If they don't, another will be found.
They do - the Development area. There, they can talk without distractions, and it's not secret. There is nothing in Area 51 that needs to be hidden.

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PostSubject: Re: Area 51 Declassification   Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:44 pm

Last_Jedi_Standing wrote:
catsonmeth wrote:
I think 51 should remain classified. The devs should always have a place to speak amongst themselves. If they don't, another will be found.
They do - the Development area. There, they can talk without distractions, and it's not secret. There is nothing in Area 51 that needs to be hidden.

I hate having to write with someone looking over my shoulder, especially if it's something the looker is so interested in.
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PostSubject: Re: Area 51 Declassification   Sun Dec 02, 2012 6:17 pm

The section would remain there, just a lot of the topics there would be moved out, and things would be declassified gradually. (Right?)

Honestly the only reason I want to see them is because right now I can't. But if I was a dev or something, I would probably be against declassifying them because, well, it is hidden from everyone, ya know?
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PostSubject: Re: Area 51 Declassification   Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:01 am

Cutting to the core of the problem, why does anything in A51 require classification?

While we to a very tiny extent follow military protocols, mostly because it's funny, I don't see why anything on this forum should be hidden. Hey, it might stop the ceaseless "fr0st, how far are you on ______" comments.
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PostSubject: Re: Area 51 Declassification   Mon Dec 03, 2012 10:18 pm

Commander Error wrote:
Cutting to the core of the problem, why does anything in A51 require classification?

While we to a very tiny extent follow military protocols, mostly because it's funny, I don't see why anything on this forum should be hidden. Hey, it might stop the ceaseless "fr0st, how far are you on ______" comments.

No, it's likely to aggravate them.

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PostSubject: Re: Area 51 Declassification   Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:18 am

It would evolve into "Hey fr0st when are you going to finish _____"
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PostSubject: Re: Area 51 Declassification   Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:05 am

Return to my original query: Why does anything on the forum need classification?
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PostSubject: Re: Area 51 Declassification   Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:35 am

You don't want stuff going around in public areas such as financial stuff and passwords. Those few cases are good for a hidden area.
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PostSubject: Re: Area 51 Declassification   Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:48 am

WHY WOULD THERE BE FINANCIAL INFORMATION AND PASSWORDS IN AREA 51!?

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PostSubject: Re: Area 51 Declassification   Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:04 pm

If you don't have any aliens in Area 51, there is not point classifying anything
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PostSubject: Re: Area 51 Declassification   Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:11 pm

Iv, there should be no passwords, financial, or other non-public information on the forum at all.
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PostSubject: Re: Area 51 Declassification   Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:36 pm

Iv121 wrote:
You don't want stuff going around in public areas such as financial stuff and passwords. Those few cases are good for a hidden area.
We don't have any of that, and if we did it should be handled over PMs. There's nothing in Area 51 except ban councils which mostly came to nothing and development threads that are now abandoned due to no-one having worked on them for a year. There's stuff, like the picture of the flying ship we posted a few months ago, that's cool. But, like the flying ship, we have nothing to show for it. No-one ever flew a ship except Cascaid, and he seems to be AWOL. There's lots of stuff like that, except without pictures or anything else but technical discussion.

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PostSubject: Re: Area 51 Declassification   Tue Dec 04, 2012 2:46 pm

So you might make A51 public when there´s something to meke public?
Is that what you´re saying?
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PostSubject: Re: Area 51 Declassification   Tue Dec 04, 2012 3:26 pm

Commander Error wrote:
Iv, there should be no passwords, financial, or other non-public information on the forum at all.

For now it is, but unfortunately holding servers cost money. If you think it's easier to use PMs alright your choice , I think it makes stuff a bit difficult.
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