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PostSubject: Minecraft Movie Progress (CARRIED AWAY)   Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:22 am

Alright. I'm back for the third time and I'm guessing the ranks are slightly based on how much time is spent on the forums cuz I used to be a much higher rank. ANYWAY. To the point. I am making a Minecraft Movie. Some of you may have been around for a few months and know that I procrastinate. I wanted to make a futurecraft trailer. Never got around to it. Wanted to make a futurecraft Movie. Never Happened. Then there were three months where I wasnt here. I made a grand enterance by posting an "I'm Back!" post. I said I wanted to make a Minecraft Movie based on Bioshock. I'm still working on that but my voice actors arent being very active and the idea is hovering around the event horizon of the trash can. So... I have a backup plan....

STEVE: THE MOVIE

Steve: The Movie??? Yes. A Movie that takes place after a territorial based war with an alien race. The aliens won so Steve is widely considered among the testificates of the world to be the last of the human race. The aliens don't know about him... but they sure as hell didnt leave. Steve stumbles across a huge mine and base one day swarming with Ender Men and their Iron Golem machines hacking away at the hard ground. Well anger wells up inside Steve and he goes into rambo mode and for the remainder of the movie he gives the aliens one hell of a bad time.

There is a deeper story line than just that but this is a summary.

The point is... I need schematics. I'm not goot at building helicopters, alien anti-air-and-space-turrets, and alien ships. The following is a list of schematics I need. If you want to help then you can send me schematics OR world saves. My email address is at the bottom.

Schematics wanted:

Helicopter <Human>

Carrier <Large Alien Spacecraft>

Bomber/Fighter <Small Alien Spacecraft>

anti air and space laser turret <large alien ground turret>

anti air flak cannon <medium sized human ground turret>

MY EMAIL ADDRESS:

nevank@gmail.com

btw: I'm back Very Happy

Progress



10/27/12

Contacted Manus. He makes working vehicle and weapon models for Minecraft. Got permission to use his models in the movie which is AWESOME.

Downloaded all the music and sounds I will need to use in the movie.

More progress tomorrow?

Nope I'm back. I made a trailer. It's rendering now. It's just something I threw together. Not much. It's trailer one of three. I'm using the survival games 2 map for the city scenes.

Got carried away while working:

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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Movie Progress (CARRIED AWAY)   Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:56 am

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Alright. I'm back for the third time and I'm guessing the ranks are slightly based on how much time is spent on the forums cuz I used to be a much higher rank. ANYWAY. To the point. I am making a Minecraft Movie. Some of you may have been around for a few months and know that I procrastinate. I wanted to make a futurecraft trailer. Never got around to it. Wanted to make a futurecraft Movie. Never Happened. Then there were three months where I wasnt here. I made a grand enterance by posting an "I'm Back!" post. I said I wanted to make a Minecraft Movie based on Bioshock. I'm still working on that but my voice actors arent being very active and the idea is hovering around the event horizon of the trash can. So... I have a backup plan....

STEVE: THE MOVIE

Steve: The Movie??? Yes. A Movie that takes place after a territorial based war with an alien race. The aliens won so Steve is widely considered among the testificates of the world to be the last of the human race. The aliens don't know about him... but they sure as hell didnt leave. Steve stumbles across a huge mine and base one day swarming with Ender Men and their Iron Golem machines hacking away at the hard ground. Well anger wells up inside Steve and he goes into rambo mode and for the remainder of the movie he gives the aliens one hell of a bad time.

There is a deeper story line than just that but this is a summary.

The point is... I need schematics. I'm not goot at building helicopters, alien anti-air-and-space-turrets, and alien ships. The following is a list of schematics I need. If you want to help then you can send me schematics OR world saves. My email address is at the bottom.

Schematics wanted:

Helicopter <Human>

Carrier <Large Alien Spacecraft>

Bomber/Fighter <Small Alien Spacecraft>

anti air and space laser turret <large alien ground turret>

anti air flak cannon <medium sized human ground turret>

MY EMAIL ADDRESS:

nevank@gmail.com

btw: I'm back Very Happy

Nope, ranks are based on posts still, but they got reconfigurated after it turned out that most active users had some rank around Admiral or something...

Also, do you need block-stuff or models?
Because , if you can make use of models, ask Manus, he got much of what you want in his pack, and maybe you´re allowed to use it.
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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Movie Progress (CARRIED AWAY)   Fri Oct 26, 2012 12:05 pm

Ok I'll build something for you though I feel something is flawed in the core of the story.
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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Movie Progress (CARRIED AWAY)   Fri Oct 26, 2012 12:23 pm

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Ok I'll build something for you though I feel something is flawed in the core of the story.

Wheres the flaw please tell me Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Movie Progress (CARRIED AWAY)   Fri Oct 26, 2012 12:23 pm

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Kobialka wrote:
Alright. I'm back for the third time and I'm guessing the ranks are slightly based on how much time is spent on the forums cuz I used to be a much higher rank. ANYWAY. To the point. I am making a Minecraft Movie. Some of you may have been around for a few months and know that I procrastinate. I wanted to make a futurecraft trailer. Never got around to it. Wanted to make a futurecraft Movie. Never Happened. Then there were three months where I wasnt here. I made a grand enterance by posting an "I'm Back!" post. I said I wanted to make a Minecraft Movie based on Bioshock. I'm still working on that but my voice actors arent being very active and the idea is hovering around the event horizon of the trash can. So... I have a backup plan....

STEVE: THE MOVIE

Steve: The Movie??? Yes. A Movie that takes place after a territorial based war with an alien race. The aliens won so Steve is widely considered among the testificates of the world to be the last of the human race. The aliens don't know about him... but they sure as hell didnt leave. Steve stumbles across a huge mine and base one day swarming with Ender Men and their Iron Golem machines hacking away at the hard ground. Well anger wells up inside Steve and he goes into rambo mode and for the remainder of the movie he gives the aliens one hell of a bad time.

There is a deeper story line than just that but this is a summary.

The point is... I need schematics. I'm not goot at building helicopters, alien anti-air-and-space-turrets, and alien ships. The following is a list of schematics I need. If you want to help then you can send me schematics OR world saves. My email address is at the bottom.

Schematics wanted:

Helicopter <Human>

Carrier <Large Alien Spacecraft>

Bomber/Fighter <Small Alien Spacecraft>

anti air and space laser turret <large alien ground turret>

anti air flak cannon <medium sized human ground turret>

MY EMAIL ADDRESS:

nevank@gmail.com

btw: I'm back Very Happy

Nope, ranks are based on posts still, but they got reconfigurated after it turned out that most active users had some rank around Admiral or something...

Also, do you need block-stuff or models?
Because , if you can make use of models, ask Manus, he got much of what you want in his pack, and maybe you´re allowed to use it.

models
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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Movie Progress (CARRIED AWAY)   Fri Oct 26, 2012 12:28 pm

You... put one of your own quotes in your sig? Suspect

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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Movie Progress (CARRIED AWAY)   Fri Oct 26, 2012 12:40 pm

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Ok I'll build something for you though I feel something is flawed in the core of the story.

Wheres the flaw please tell me Very Happy

Hard to tell ... its more based on an inside feeling ...
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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Movie Progress (CARRIED AWAY)   Fri Oct 26, 2012 12:41 pm

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Surp. Grm. Ivan Kintobor wrote:
Kobialka wrote:
Alright. I'm back for the third time and I'm guessing the ranks are slightly based on how much time is spent on the forums cuz I used to be a much higher rank. ANYWAY. To the point. I am making a Minecraft Movie. Some of you may have been around for a few months and know that I procrastinate. I wanted to make a futurecraft trailer. Never got around to it. Wanted to make a futurecraft Movie. Never Happened. Then there were three months where I wasnt here. I made a grand enterance by posting an "I'm Back!" post. I said I wanted to make a Minecraft Movie based on Bioshock. I'm still working on that but my voice actors arent being very active and the idea is hovering around the event horizon of the trash can. So... I have a backup plan....

STEVE: THE MOVIE

Steve: The Movie??? Yes. A Movie that takes place after a territorial based war with an alien race. The aliens won so Steve is widely considered among the testificates of the world to be the last of the human race. The aliens don't know about him... but they sure as hell didnt leave. Steve stumbles across a huge mine and base one day swarming with Ender Men and their Iron Golem machines hacking away at the hard ground. Well anger wells up inside Steve and he goes into rambo mode and for the remainder of the movie he gives the aliens one hell of a bad time.

There is a deeper story line than just that but this is a summary.

The point is... I need schematics. I'm not goot at building helicopters, alien anti-air-and-space-turrets, and alien ships. The following is a list of schematics I need. If you want to help then you can send me schematics OR world saves. My email address is at the bottom.

Schematics wanted:

Helicopter <Human>

Carrier <Large Alien Spacecraft>

Bomber/Fighter <Small Alien Spacecraft>

anti air and space laser turret <large alien ground turret>

anti air flak cannon <medium sized human ground turret>

MY EMAIL ADDRESS:

nevank@gmail.com

btw: I'm back Very Happy

Nope, ranks are based on posts still, but they got reconfigurated after it turned out that most active users had some rank around Admiral or something...

Also, do you need block-stuff or models?
Because , if you can make use of models, ask Manus, he got much of what you want in his pack, and maybe you´re allowed to use it.

models

Then contact this website. Manus has pretty much a lot of what you want (to be exact, the human helicopter and the human flak, but also some other stuff you might find useful). Also, I think you might really have a chance convincing him, because he does let other modellers use his models, and I think he would be okay with his models being used for a movie. (If you even have him appear in the cradits, he will definetly say yes, it´s a good ad for his modelling skills)
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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Movie Progress (CARRIED AWAY)   Fri Oct 26, 2012 12:48 pm

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You... put one of your own quotes in your sig? Suspect

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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Movie Progress (CARRIED AWAY)   Fri Oct 26, 2012 12:52 pm

Surp. Grm. Ivan Kintobor wrote:
Kobialka wrote:
Surp. Grm. Ivan Kintobor wrote:
Kobialka wrote:
Alright. I'm back for the third time and I'm guessing the ranks are slightly based on how much time is spent on the forums cuz I used to be a much higher rank. ANYWAY. To the point. I am making a Minecraft Movie. Some of you may have been around for a few months and know that I procrastinate. I wanted to make a futurecraft trailer. Never got around to it. Wanted to make a futurecraft Movie. Never Happened. Then there were three months where I wasnt here. I made a grand enterance by posting an "I'm Back!" post. I said I wanted to make a Minecraft Movie based on Bioshock. I'm still working on that but my voice actors arent being very active and the idea is hovering around the event horizon of the trash can. So... I have a backup plan....

STEVE: THE MOVIE

Steve: The Movie??? Yes. A Movie that takes place after a territorial based war with an alien race. The aliens won so Steve is widely considered among the testificates of the world to be the last of the human race. The aliens don't know about him... but they sure as hell didnt leave. Steve stumbles across a huge mine and base one day swarming with Ender Men and their Iron Golem machines hacking away at the hard ground. Well anger wells up inside Steve and he goes into rambo mode and for the remainder of the movie he gives the aliens one hell of a bad time.

There is a deeper story line than just that but this is a summary.

The point is... I need schematics. I'm not goot at building helicopters, alien anti-air-and-space-turrets, and alien ships. The following is a list of schematics I need. If you want to help then you can send me schematics OR world saves. My email address is at the bottom.

Schematics wanted:

Helicopter <Human>

Carrier <Large Alien Spacecraft>

Bomber/Fighter <Small Alien Spacecraft>

anti air and space laser turret <large alien ground turret>

anti air flak cannon <medium sized human ground turret>

MY EMAIL ADDRESS:

nevank@gmail.com

btw: I'm back Very Happy

Nope, ranks are based on posts still, but they got reconfigurated after it turned out that most active users had some rank around Admiral or something...

Also, do you need block-stuff or models?
Because , if you can make use of models, ask Manus, he got much of what you want in his pack, and maybe you´re allowed to use it.

models

Then contact this website. Manus has pretty much a lot of what you want (to be exact, the human helicopter and the human flak, but also some other stuff you might find useful). Also, I think you might really have a chance convincing him, because he does let other modellers use his models, and I think he would be okay with his models being used for a movie. (If you even have him appear in the cradits, he will definetly say yes, it´s a good ad for his modelling skills)

Thanks! His Modern Warfare Models are wonderful!!! How do I contact him?
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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Movie Progress (CARRIED AWAY)   Fri Oct 26, 2012 12:59 pm

Kobialka wrote:
Surp. Grm. Ivan Kintobor wrote:
Kobialka wrote:
Surp. Grm. Ivan Kintobor wrote:
Kobialka wrote:
Alright. I'm back for the third time and I'm guessing the ranks are slightly based on how much time is spent on the forums cuz I used to be a much higher rank. ANYWAY. To the point. I am making a Minecraft Movie. Some of you may have been around for a few months and know that I procrastinate. I wanted to make a futurecraft trailer. Never got around to it. Wanted to make a futurecraft Movie. Never Happened. Then there were three months where I wasnt here. I made a grand enterance by posting an "I'm Back!" post. I said I wanted to make a Minecraft Movie based on Bioshock. I'm still working on that but my voice actors arent being very active and the idea is hovering around the event horizon of the trash can. So... I have a backup plan....

STEVE: THE MOVIE

Steve: The Movie??? Yes. A Movie that takes place after a territorial based war with an alien race. The aliens won so Steve is widely considered among the testificates of the world to be the last of the human race. The aliens don't know about him... but they sure as hell didnt leave. Steve stumbles across a huge mine and base one day swarming with Ender Men and their Iron Golem machines hacking away at the hard ground. Well anger wells up inside Steve and he goes into rambo mode and for the remainder of the movie he gives the aliens one hell of a bad time.

There is a deeper story line than just that but this is a summary.

The point is... I need schematics. I'm not goot at building helicopters, alien anti-air-and-space-turrets, and alien ships. The following is a list of schematics I need. If you want to help then you can send me schematics OR world saves. My email address is at the bottom.

Schematics wanted:

Helicopter <Human>

Carrier <Large Alien Spacecraft>

Bomber/Fighter <Small Alien Spacecraft>

anti air and space laser turret <large alien ground turret>

anti air flak cannon <medium sized human ground turret>

MY EMAIL ADDRESS:

nevank@gmail.com

btw: I'm back Very Happy

Nope, ranks are based on posts still, but they got reconfigurated after it turned out that most active users had some rank around Admiral or something...

Also, do you need block-stuff or models?
Because , if you can make use of models, ask Manus, he got much of what you want in his pack, and maybe you´re allowed to use it.

models

Then contact this website. Manus has pretty much a lot of what you want (to be exact, the human helicopter and the human flak, but also some other stuff you might find useful). Also, I think you might really have a chance convincing him, because he does let other modellers use his models, and I think he would be okay with his models being used for a movie. (If you even have him appear in the cradits, he will definetly say yes, it´s a good ad for his modelling skills)

Thanks! His Modern Warfare Models are wonderful!!! How do I contact him?
You haven´t seen all! There are some cool new german tanks (and a modern AA-gun) that aren´t in the modern warfare-section, look them up by scrolling down the blog.

On the blog, click his name, it´s on the bottom-right corner of almost every blog-post, then click e-mail. If you can´t do aome of this, then I´m afraid you will have to create an account on the website first.
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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Movie Progress (CARRIED AWAY)   Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:04 pm

Surp. Grm. Ivan Kintobor wrote:
Kobialka wrote:
Surp. Grm. Ivan Kintobor wrote:
Kobialka wrote:
Alright. I'm back for the third time and I'm guessing the ranks are slightly based on how much time is spent on the forums cuz I used to be a much higher rank. ANYWAY. To the point. I am making a Minecraft Movie. Some of you may have been around for a few months and know that I procrastinate. I wanted to make a futurecraft trailer. Never got around to it. Wanted to make a futurecraft Movie. Never Happened. Then there were three months where I wasnt here. I made a grand enterance by posting an "I'm Back!" post. I said I wanted to make a Minecraft Movie based on Bioshock. I'm still working on that but my voice actors arent being very active and the idea is hovering around the event horizon of the trash can. So... I have a backup plan....

STEVE: THE MOVIE

Steve: The Movie??? Yes. A Movie that takes place after a territorial based war with an alien race. The aliens won so Steve is widely considered among the testificates of the world to be the last of the human race. The aliens don't know about him... but they sure as hell didnt leave. Steve stumbles across a huge mine and base one day swarming with Ender Men and their Iron Golem machines hacking away at the hard ground. Well anger wells up inside Steve and he goes into rambo mode and for the remainder of the movie he gives the aliens one hell of a bad time.

There is a deeper story line than just that but this is a summary.

The point is... I need schematics. I'm not goot at building helicopters, alien anti-air-and-space-turrets, and alien ships. The following is a list of schematics I need. If you want to help then you can send me schematics OR world saves. My email address is at the bottom.

Schematics wanted:

Helicopter <Human>

Carrier <Large Alien Spacecraft>

Bomber/Fighter <Small Alien Spacecraft>

anti air and space laser turret <large alien ground turret>

anti air flak cannon <medium sized human ground turret>

MY EMAIL ADDRESS:

nevank@gmail.com

btw: I'm back Very Happy

Nope, ranks are based on posts still, but they got reconfigurated after it turned out that most active users had some rank around Admiral or something...

Also, do you need block-stuff or models?
Because , if you can make use of models, ask Manus, he got much of what you want in his pack, and maybe you´re allowed to use it.

models

Then contact this website. Manus has pretty much a lot of what you want (to be exact, the human helicopter and the human flak, but also some other stuff you might find useful). Also, I think you might really have a chance convincing him, because he does let other modellers use his models, and I think he would be okay with his models being used for a movie. (If you even have him appear in the cradits, he will definetly say yes, it´s a good ad for his modelling skills)

Manus has been contacted.
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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Movie Progress (CARRIED AWAY)   Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:21 pm

So no need in schematics ? Too bad I just made your flak turret

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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Movie Progress (CARRIED AWAY)   Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:31 pm

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So no need in schematics ? Too bad I just made your flak turret

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lol no need for vehicle schems anymore but I still need turrets and ships so thanks!
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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Movie Progress (CARRIED AWAY)   Fri Oct 26, 2012 1:40 pm

You might want to use a texture pack though ...

Download link : http://www.mediafire.com/?e1csvb1hk8x25qd

Might build something else later
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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Movie Progress (CARRIED AWAY)   Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:14 pm

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You might want to use a texture pack though ...

Download link : http://www.mediafire.com/?e1csvb1hk8x25qd

Might build something else later

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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Movie Progress (CARRIED AWAY)   Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:42 pm

Surp. Grm. Ivan Kintobor wrote:
Kobialka wrote:
Surp. Grm. Ivan Kintobor wrote:
Kobialka wrote:
Surp. Grm. Ivan Kintobor wrote:
Kobialka wrote:
Alright. I'm back for the third time and I'm guessing the ranks are slightly based on how much time is spent on the forums cuz I used to be a much higher rank. ANYWAY. To the point. I am making a Minecraft Movie. Some of you may have been around for a few months and know that I procrastinate. I wanted to make a futurecraft trailer. Never got around to it. Wanted to make a futurecraft Movie. Never Happened. Then there were three months where I wasnt here. I made a grand enterance by posting an "I'm Back!" post. I said I wanted to make a Minecraft Movie based on Bioshock. I'm still working on that but my voice actors arent being very active and the idea is hovering around the event horizon of the trash can. So... I have a backup plan....

STEVE: THE MOVIE

Steve: The Movie??? Yes. A Movie that takes place after a territorial based war with an alien race. The aliens won so Steve is widely considered among the testificates of the world to be the last of the human race. The aliens don't know about him... but they sure as hell didnt leave. Steve stumbles across a huge mine and base one day swarming with Ender Men and their Iron Golem machines hacking away at the hard ground. Well anger wells up inside Steve and he goes into rambo mode and for the remainder of the movie he gives the aliens one hell of a bad time.

There is a deeper story line than just that but this is a summary.

The point is... I need schematics. I'm not goot at building helicopters, alien anti-air-and-space-turrets, and alien ships. The following is a list of schematics I need. If you want to help then you can send me schematics OR world saves. My email address is at the bottom.

Schematics wanted:

Helicopter <Human>

Carrier <Large Alien Spacecraft>

Bomber/Fighter <Small Alien Spacecraft>

anti air and space laser turret <large alien ground turret>

anti air flak cannon <medium sized human ground turret>

MY EMAIL ADDRESS:

nevank@gmail.com

btw: I'm back Very Happy

Nope, ranks are based on posts still, but they got reconfigurated after it turned out that most active users had some rank around Admiral or something...

Also, do you need block-stuff or models?
Because , if you can make use of models, ask Manus, he got much of what you want in his pack, and maybe you´re allowed to use it.

models

Then contact this website. Manus has pretty much a lot of what you want (to be exact, the human helicopter and the human flak, but also some other stuff you might find useful). Also, I think you might really have a chance convincing him, because he does let other modellers use his models, and I think he would be okay with his models being used for a movie. (If you even have him appear in the cradits, he will definetly say yes, it´s a good ad for his modelling skills)

Thanks! His Modern Warfare Models are wonderful!!! How do I contact him?
You haven´t seen all! There are some cool new german tanks (and a modern AA-gun) that aren´t in the modern warfare-section, look them up by scrolling down the blog.

On the blog, click his name, it´s on the bottom-right corner of almost every blog-post, then click e-mail. If you can´t do aome of this, then I´m afraid you will have to create an account on the website first.

He said yes Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Movie Progress (CARRIED AWAY)   Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:19 pm

Someone should make a FutureCraft movie. Ship battles 'n' such.
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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Movie Progress (CARRIED AWAY)   Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:12 am

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Someone should make a FutureCraft movie. Ship battles 'n' such.

Once FC is out, such a movie might be more realistic, as the used materials will match the actual mod more accurately.
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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Movie Progress (CARRIED AWAY)   Sat Oct 27, 2012 9:40 am

That has been discussed and rediscussed to oblivion, cats.
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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Movie Progress (CARRIED AWAY)   Sat Oct 27, 2012 11:41 am

Tiel wrote:
That has been discussed and rediscussed to oblivion, cats.

I know, I was there, but it would be really neat if it was done right.

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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Movie Progress (CARRIED AWAY)   Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:43 pm

Hmm futurecraft ship battles, I must discuss this!
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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Movie Progress (CARRIED AWAY)   Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:56 pm

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Hmm futurecraft ship battles, I must discuss this!

No, you mustn´t.
At least not in this thread.
LJS hates Off-topic, and it would be a shame if Kobialka would have to open a new thread to keep us up to date with the current status of the movie just because this thread gets locked due to off-topicness.
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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Movie Progress (CARRIED AWAY)   Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:19 pm

Hmm I swore I posted a thread about it, Oh well was more of a ramble anyway.

Anyway movies need lotsa CGI and Explosions, Death, Lasers, Explosions, Explosions, Explosions.
People like boom-boom stuff cat
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PostSubject: Re: Minecraft Movie Progress (CARRIED AWAY)   Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:21 pm

_Shadowcat_ wrote:
Hmm I swore I posted a thread about it, Oh well was more of a ramble anyway.

Anyway movies need lotsa CGI and Explosions, Death, Lasers, Explosions, Explosions, Explosions.
People like boom-boom stuff cat

I now know that you made a thread for that, I just read this first and then your thread.
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