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PostSubject: Re: Something akin to the handsaw.   Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:31 pm

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Handsaw-made of stone, cuts wood and wood planks.
hacksaw-made of iron/other metal, cuts stone, weak metal.
gas torch-rus off methane or propane, cuts weak metals, incenerates other things.
plasma torch/laser cutter-cuts weak metals, strong metals, and some alloys.

loom-makes things out of wool, cotton, etc.
advanced loom thing-weaves carbon fiber and nanotube mesh

Saw table-never breaks, cuts wood, stone, and weak metals.
plasma-ark cutting table thing- cuts anything nonflammable up to semi-advanced alloys.
laser cutter table thing- cuts anything nonflammable, including super-advanced materials

molecular realignment device-extremely expensive, can cut nothing. NOTHING.

What d'you think?

Well I fixed it so thank me later.
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PostSubject: Re: Something akin to the handsaw.   Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:52 pm

Molecular Realignment is the future you fool, Once we can do so we will be able to produce any material by simply providing it with matter, Rearanging atoms into difrent molocules and compounds to form food, Machinery, Fuel, Air, Etc.
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PostSubject: Re: Something akin to the handsaw.   Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:33 pm

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catsonmeth wrote:
Handsaw-made of stone, cuts wood and wood planks.
hacksaw-made of iron/other metal, cuts stone, weak metal.
gas torch-rus off methane or propane, cuts weak metals, incenerates other things.
plasma torch/laser cutter-cuts weak metals, strong metals, and some alloys.

loom-makes things out of wool, cotton, etc.
advanced loom thing-weaves carbon fiber and nanotube mesh

Saw table-never breaks, cuts wood, stone, and weak metals.
plasma-ark cutting table thing- cuts anything nonflammable up to semi-advanced alloys.
laser cutter table thing- cuts anything nonflammable, including super-advanced materials

molecular realignment device-extremely expensive, can cut nothing. NOTHING.

What d'you think?

Well I fixed it so thank me later.

There, I changed the wording slightly because you seemed so worried about it.
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PostSubject: Re: Something akin to the handsaw.   Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:59 am

catsonmeth wrote:
Handsaw-made of stone, cuts wood and wood planks.
hacksaw-made of iron/other metal, cuts stone, weak metal.
gas torch-rus off methane or propane, cuts weak metals, incenerates other things.
plasma torch/laser cutter-cuts weak metals, strong metals, and some alloys.

loom-makes things out of wool, cotton, etc.
advanced loom thing-weaves carbon fiber and nanotube mesh

Saw table-never breaks, cuts wood, stone, and weak metals.
plasma-ark cutting table thing- cuts anything nonflammable up to semi-advanced alloys.
laser cutter table thing- cuts anything nonflammable, including super-advanced materials

molecular dissolution device-extremely expensive, can cut anything. ANYTHING.

What d'you think?

Scratch the handsaws and intrgrate them as interchangeable modules to be inserted into the saw table.
We already came to the conclusion thet saws (and plasma cutters) will propably be stationary, because it would be slightly OP otherwise.
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PostSubject: Re: Something akin to the handsaw.   Sat Oct 27, 2012 11:55 am

Surp. Grm. Ivan Kintobor wrote:
catsonmeth wrote:
Handsaw-made of stone, cuts wood and wood planks.
hacksaw-made of iron/other metal, cuts stone, weak metal.
gas torch-rus off methane or propane, cuts weak metals, incenerates other things.
plasma torch/laser cutter-cuts weak metals, strong metals, and some alloys.

loom-makes things out of wool, cotton, etc.
advanced loom thing-weaves carbon fiber and nanotube mesh

Saw table-never breaks, cuts wood, stone, and weak metals.
plasma-ark cutting table thing- cuts anything nonflammable up to semi-advanced alloys.
laser cutter table thing- cuts anything nonflammable, including super-advanced materials

molecular dissolution device-extremely expensive, can cut anything. ANYTHING.

What d'you think?

Scratch the handsaws and intrgrate them as interchangeable modules to be inserted into the saw table.
We already came to the conclusion thet saws (and plasma cutters) will propably be stationary, because it would be slightly OP otherwise.

Mobile units would never be as powerful as the tables, and they would break. Modular table would be nice, and erase some recipes. Maybe just place a plasma gun or laser rifle in a saw table.
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PostSubject: Re: Something akin to the handsaw.   Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:34 pm

catsonmeth wrote:
Surp. Grm. Ivan Kintobor wrote:
catsonmeth wrote:
Handsaw-made of stone, cuts wood and wood planks.
hacksaw-made of iron/other metal, cuts stone, weak metal.
gas torch-rus off methane or propane, cuts weak metals, incenerates other things.
plasma torch/laser cutter-cuts weak metals, strong metals, and some alloys.

loom-makes things out of wool, cotton, etc.
advanced loom thing-weaves carbon fiber and nanotube mesh

Saw table-never breaks, cuts wood, stone, and weak metals.
plasma-ark cutting table thing- cuts anything nonflammable up to semi-advanced alloys.
laser cutter table thing- cuts anything nonflammable, including super-advanced materials

molecular dissolution device-extremely expensive, can cut anything. ANYTHING.

What d'you think?

Scratch the handsaws and intrgrate them as interchangeable modules to be inserted into the saw table.
We already came to the conclusion thet saws (and plasma cutters) will propably be stationary, because it would be slightly OP otherwise.

Mobile units would never be as powerful as the tables, and they would break. Modular table would be nice, and erase some recipes. Maybe just place a plasma gun or laser rifle in a saw table.

It would need to be a professional cutter.
You can´t use a gun to cut stuff.
Guns are made for destruction, you would break it befor you get it into a feasible shape, no matter which material.
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PostSubject: Re: Something akin to the handsaw.   Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:05 pm

Surp. Grm. Ivan Kintobor wrote:
catsonmeth wrote:
Surp. Grm. Ivan Kintobor wrote:
catsonmeth wrote:
Handsaw-made of stone, cuts wood and wood planks.
hacksaw-made of iron/other metal, cuts stone, weak metal.
gas torch-rus off methane or propane, cuts weak metals, incenerates other things.
plasma torch/laser cutter-cuts weak metals, strong metals, and some alloys.

loom-makes things out of wool, cotton, etc.
advanced loom thing-weaves carbon fiber and nanotube mesh

Saw table-never breaks, cuts wood, stone, and weak metals.
plasma-ark cutting table thing- cuts anything nonflammable up to semi-advanced alloys.
laser cutter table thing- cuts anything nonflammable, including super-advanced materials

molecular dissolution device-extremely expensive, can cut anything. ANYTHING.

What d'you think?

Scratch the handsaws and intrgrate them as interchangeable modules to be inserted into the saw table.
We already came to the conclusion thet saws (and plasma cutters) will propably be stationary, because it would be slightly OP otherwise.

Mobile units would never be as powerful as the tables, and they would break. Modular table would be nice, and erase some recipes. Maybe just place a plasma gun or laser rifle in a saw table.

It would need to be a professional cutter.
You can´t use a gun to cut stuff.
Guns are made for destruction, you would break it befor you get it into a feasible shape, no matter which material.

It wouldn't be molding or shaping, it would be breaking. A laser is a laser no matter what you call it.
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PostSubject: Re: Something akin to the handsaw.   Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:07 pm

catsonmeth wrote:
Surp. Grm. Ivan Kintobor wrote:
catsonmeth wrote:
Surp. Grm. Ivan Kintobor wrote:
catsonmeth wrote:
Handsaw-made of stone, cuts wood and wood planks.
hacksaw-made of iron/other metal, cuts stone, weak metal.
gas torch-rus off methane or propane, cuts weak metals, incenerates other things.
plasma torch/laser cutter-cuts weak metals, strong metals, and some alloys.

loom-makes things out of wool, cotton, etc.
advanced loom thing-weaves carbon fiber and nanotube mesh

Saw table-never breaks, cuts wood, stone, and weak metals.
plasma-ark cutting table thing- cuts anything nonflammable up to semi-advanced alloys.
laser cutter table thing- cuts anything nonflammable, including super-advanced materials

molecular dissolution device-extremely expensive, can cut anything. ANYTHING.

What d'you think?

Scratch the handsaws and intrgrate them as interchangeable modules to be inserted into the saw table.
We already came to the conclusion thet saws (and plasma cutters) will propably be stationary, because it would be slightly OP otherwise.

Mobile units would never be as powerful as the tables, and they would break. Modular table would be nice, and erase some recipes. Maybe just place a plasma gun or laser rifle in a saw table.

It would need to be a professional cutter.
You can´t use a gun to cut stuff.
Guns are made for destruction, you would break it befor you get it into a feasible shape, no matter which material.

It wouldn't be molding or shaping, it would be breaking. A laser is a laser no matter what you call it.

Lasers can be used to cut, but definetly not the same laser that you use in your gun.
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PostSubject: Re: Something akin to the handsaw.   Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:16 pm

Surp. Grm. Ivan Kintobor wrote:
catsonmeth wrote:
Surp. Grm. Ivan Kintobor wrote:
catsonmeth wrote:
Surp. Grm. Ivan Kintobor wrote:
catsonmeth wrote:
Handsaw-made of stone, cuts wood and wood planks.
hacksaw-made of iron/other metal, cuts stone, weak metal.
gas torch-rus off methane or propane, cuts weak metals, incenerates other things.
plasma torch/laser cutter-cuts weak metals, strong metals, and some alloys.

loom-makes things out of wool, cotton, etc.
advanced loom thing-weaves carbon fiber and nanotube mesh

Saw table-never breaks, cuts wood, stone, and weak metals.
plasma-ark cutting table thing- cuts anything nonflammable up to semi-advanced alloys.
laser cutter table thing- cuts anything nonflammable, including super-advanced materials

molecular dissolution device-extremely expensive, can cut anything. ANYTHING.

What d'you think?

Scratch the handsaws and intrgrate them as interchangeable modules to be inserted into the saw table.
We already came to the conclusion thet saws (and plasma cutters) will propably be stationary, because it would be slightly OP otherwise.

Mobile units would never be as powerful as the tables, and they would break. Modular table would be nice, and erase some recipes. Maybe just place a plasma gun or laser rifle in a saw table.

It would need to be a professional cutter.
You can´t use a gun to cut stuff.
Guns are made for destruction, you would break it befor you get it into a feasible shape, no matter which material.

It wouldn't be molding or shaping, it would be breaking. A laser is a laser no matter what you call it.

Lasers can be used to cut, but definetly not the same laser that you use in your gun.

Why? They both do the same thing.
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PostSubject: Re: Something akin to the handsaw.   Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:22 pm

catsonmeth wrote:
Surp. Grm. Ivan Kintobor wrote:
catsonmeth wrote:
Surp. Grm. Ivan Kintobor wrote:
catsonmeth wrote:
Surp. Grm. Ivan Kintobor wrote:
catsonmeth wrote:
Handsaw-made of stone, cuts wood and wood planks.
hacksaw-made of iron/other metal, cuts stone, weak metal.
gas torch-rus off methane or propane, cuts weak metals, incenerates other things.
plasma torch/laser cutter-cuts weak metals, strong metals, and some alloys.

loom-makes things out of wool, cotton, etc.
advanced loom thing-weaves carbon fiber and nanotube mesh

Saw table-never breaks, cuts wood, stone, and weak metals.
plasma-ark cutting table thing- cuts anything nonflammable up to semi-advanced alloys.
laser cutter table thing- cuts anything nonflammable, including super-advanced materials

molecular dissolution device-extremely expensive, can cut anything. ANYTHING.

What d'you think?

Scratch the handsaws and intrgrate them as interchangeable modules to be inserted into the saw table.
We already came to the conclusion thet saws (and plasma cutters) will propably be stationary, because it would be slightly OP otherwise.

Mobile units would never be as powerful as the tables, and they would break. Modular table would be nice, and erase some recipes. Maybe just place a plasma gun or laser rifle in a saw table.

It would need to be a professional cutter.
You can´t use a gun to cut stuff.
Guns are made for destruction, you would break it befor you get it into a feasible shape, no matter which material.

It wouldn't be molding or shaping, it would be breaking. A laser is a laser no matter what you call it.

Lasers can be used to cut, but definetly not the same laser that you use in your gun.

Why? They both do the same thing.

No. A gun laser is holding back the beam for a while and then releasing a lot at once while a cutting beam is continuous.
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PostSubject: Re: Something akin to the handsaw.   Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:27 pm

Surp. Grm. Ivan Kintobor wrote:
catsonmeth wrote:
Surp. Grm. Ivan Kintobor wrote:
catsonmeth wrote:
Surp. Grm. Ivan Kintobor wrote:
catsonmeth wrote:
Surp. Grm. Ivan Kintobor wrote:
catsonmeth wrote:
Handsaw-made of stone, cuts wood and wood planks.
hacksaw-made of iron/other metal, cuts stone, weak metal.
gas torch-rus off methane or propane, cuts weak metals, incenerates other things.
plasma torch/laser cutter-cuts weak metals, strong metals, and some alloys.

loom-makes things out of wool, cotton, etc.
advanced loom thing-weaves carbon fiber and nanotube mesh

Saw table-never breaks, cuts wood, stone, and weak metals.
plasma-ark cutting table thing- cuts anything nonflammable up to semi-advanced alloys.
laser cutter table thing- cuts anything nonflammable, including super-advanced materials

molecular dissolution device-extremely expensive, can cut anything. ANYTHING.

What d'you think?

Scratch the handsaws and intrgrate them as interchangeable modules to be inserted into the saw table.
We already came to the conclusion thet saws (and plasma cutters) will propably be stationary, because it would be slightly OP otherwise.

Mobile units would never be as powerful as the tables, and they would break. Modular table would be nice, and erase some recipes. Maybe just place a plasma gun or laser rifle in a saw table.

It would need to be a professional cutter.
You can´t use a gun to cut stuff.
Guns are made for destruction, you would break it befor you get it into a feasible shape, no matter which material.

It wouldn't be molding or shaping, it would be breaking. A laser is a laser no matter what you call it.

Lasers can be used to cut, but definetly not the same laser that you use in your gun.

Why? They both do the same thing.

No. A gun laser is holding back the beam for a while and then releasing a lot at once while a cutting beam is continuous.

That would be a pulse laser. Not all "laser guns" would operate with the same mechanism.
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PostSubject: Re: Something akin to the handsaw.   Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:59 pm

catsonmeth wrote:
Surp. Grm. Ivan Kintobor wrote:
catsonmeth wrote:
Surp. Grm. Ivan Kintobor wrote:
catsonmeth wrote:
Surp. Grm. Ivan Kintobor wrote:
catsonmeth wrote:
Surp. Grm. Ivan Kintobor wrote:
catsonmeth wrote:
Handsaw-made of stone, cuts wood and wood planks.
hacksaw-made of iron/other metal, cuts stone, weak metal.
gas torch-rus off methane or propane, cuts weak metals, incenerates other things.
plasma torch/laser cutter-cuts weak metals, strong metals, and some alloys.

loom-makes things out of wool, cotton, etc.
advanced loom thing-weaves carbon fiber and nanotube mesh

Saw table-never breaks, cuts wood, stone, and weak metals.
plasma-ark cutting table thing- cuts anything nonflammable up to semi-advanced alloys.
laser cutter table thing- cuts anything nonflammable, including super-advanced materials

molecular dissolution device-extremely expensive, can cut anything. ANYTHING.

What d'you think?

Scratch the handsaws and intrgrate them as interchangeable modules to be inserted into the saw table.
We already came to the conclusion thet saws (and plasma cutters) will propably be stationary, because it would be slightly OP otherwise.

Mobile units would never be as powerful as the tables, and they would break. Modular table would be nice, and erase some recipes. Maybe just place a plasma gun or laser rifle in a saw table.

It would need to be a professional cutter.
You can´t use a gun to cut stuff.
Guns are made for destruction, you would break it befor you get it into a feasible shape, no matter which material.

It wouldn't be molding or shaping, it would be breaking. A laser is a laser no matter what you call it.

Lasers can be used to cut, but definetly not the same laser that you use in your gun.

Why? They both do the same thing.

No. A gun laser is holding back the beam for a while and then releasing a lot at once while a cutting beam is continuous.

That would be a pulse laser. Not all "laser guns" would operate with the same mechanism.

that´s true, but the classic "laser guns" you think off are pulse lasers.
Altough, this might be influenced by the fact that some people call the blasters in Star Wars lasers, even tough they are plasme weapons.
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PostSubject: Re: Something akin to the handsaw.   Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:27 pm

Surp. Grm. Ivan Kintobor wrote:
catsonmeth wrote:
Surp. Grm. Ivan Kintobor wrote:
catsonmeth wrote:
Surp. Grm. Ivan Kintobor wrote:
catsonmeth wrote:
Surp. Grm. Ivan Kintobor wrote:
catsonmeth wrote:
Surp. Grm. Ivan Kintobor wrote:
catsonmeth wrote:
Handsaw-made of stone, cuts wood and wood planks.
hacksaw-made of iron/other metal, cuts stone, weak metal.
gas torch-rus off methane or propane, cuts weak metals, incenerates other things.
plasma torch/laser cutter-cuts weak metals, strong metals, and some alloys.

loom-makes things out of wool, cotton, etc.
advanced loom thing-weaves carbon fiber and nanotube mesh

Saw table-never breaks, cuts wood, stone, and weak metals.
plasma-ark cutting table thing- cuts anything nonflammable up to semi-advanced alloys.
laser cutter table thing- cuts anything nonflammable, including super-advanced materials

molecular dissolution device-extremely expensive, can cut anything. ANYTHING.

What d'you think?

Scratch the handsaws and intrgrate them as interchangeable modules to be inserted into the saw table.
We already came to the conclusion thet saws (and plasma cutters) will propably be stationary, because it would be slightly OP otherwise.

Mobile units would never be as powerful as the tables, and they would break. Modular table would be nice, and erase some recipes. Maybe just place a plasma gun or laser rifle in a saw table.

It would need to be a professional cutter.
You can´t use a gun to cut stuff.
Guns are made for destruction, you would break it befor you get it into a feasible shape, no matter which material.

It wouldn't be molding or shaping, it would be breaking. A laser is a laser no matter what you call it.

Lasers can be used to cut, but definetly not the same laser that you use in your gun.

Why? They both do the same thing.

No. A gun laser is holding back the beam for a while and then releasing a lot at once while a cutting beam is continuous.

That would be a pulse laser. Not all "laser guns" would operate with the same mechanism.

that´s true, but the classic "laser guns" you think off are pulse lasers.
Altough, this might be influenced by the fact that some people call the blasters in Star Wars lasers, even tough they are plasme weapons.

I think of a continuous laser when I think of a laser gun, but it is a general term.
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PostSubject: Re: Something akin to the handsaw.   Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:45 pm

This makes me wonder a lot. Are you guy planning on making this mod a very easy to do kind of thing. Similar to IC2 where you could make advanced machinery in less than an hour? Because I'm not so sure if noobs making spaceships in that short of time period is exactly a good thing.

Won't you guys need content to go in between vanilla and FC? That way we aren't jumping from making bow and arrows to making plasma guns in ten seconds flat? A cutting tool would be great but should be easy to achieve and if a plasma saw is easy to achieve, I'm not exactly sure if this mod will make any sense whatsoever.
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PostSubject: Re: Something akin to the handsaw.   Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:05 pm

You guys know there is a button other then the quote button right? I mean I totaly enjoy scrolling through 3 pages worth of quotes for 7 posts.
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PostSubject: Re: Something akin to the handsaw.   Sat Oct 27, 2012 7:27 pm

_Shadowcat_ wrote:
You guys know there is a button other then the quote button right? I mean I totaly enjoy scrolling through 3 pages worth of quotes for 7 posts.


NO! FIELDS OF QUOTES!!!


bsb23 wrote:
This makes me wonder a lot. Are you guy planning on making this mod a very easy to do kind of thing. Similar to IC2 where you could make advanced machinery in less than an hour? Because I'm not so sure if noobs making spaceships in that short of time period is exactly a good thing.

Won't you guys need content to go in between vanilla and FC? That way we aren't jumping from making bow and arrows to making plasma guns in ten seconds flat? A cutting tool would be great but should be easy to achieve and if a plasma saw is easy to achieve, I'm not exactly sure if this mod will make any sense whatsoever.

I'm not sure I fully understand. Are you saying that there's not enough between stone age and interstellar, or are you saying that a cutting machine/tool should always be one of the simplest things to build and shouldn't become more complex as you progress through the game?
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PostSubject: Re: Something akin to the handsaw.   Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:20 am

catsonmeth wrote:
_Shadowcat_ wrote:
You guys know there is a button other then the quote button right? I mean I totaly enjoy scrolling through 3 pages worth of quotes for 7 posts.


NO! FIELDS OF QUOTES!!!


bsb23 wrote:
This makes me wonder a lot. Are you guy planning on making this mod a very easy to do kind of thing. Similar to IC2 where you could make advanced machinery in less than an hour? Because I'm not so sure if noobs making spaceships in that short of time period is exactly a good thing.

Won't you guys need content to go in between vanilla and FC? That way we aren't jumping from making bow and arrows to making plasma guns in ten seconds flat? A cutting tool would be great but should be easy to achieve and if a plasma saw is easy to achieve, I'm not exactly sure if this mod will make any sense whatsoever.

I'm not sure I fully understand. Are you saying that there's not enough between stone age and interstellar, or are you saying that a cutting machine/tool should always be one of the simplest things to build and shouldn't become more complex as you progress through the game?

I think he means that a saw should be pretty low-tech and quick to achieve while a plasma cutter would be quite a higher tier.
He also is worried about the possibility that people will be able to start making high-tier stuff such as spaceships before they are actually "ready" for that technology.

@bsb23: If you want more stuff between vanilla-tech and FC-high-tier-tech, create an Idea-center thread and post your ideas there.
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PostSubject: Re: Something akin to the handsaw.   Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:20 pm

Exactly what I meant however if I were to make a post on all the things that I need to go in-between it may take quite a while, I am a TFC player after all and I'm use to a game that it takes hours to dig through your first piece of rock and I do mean hours.

I was just curious what your thoughts on it was.
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PostSubject: Re: Something akin to the handsaw.   Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:25 am

I thought we've already decided that the "small ships" of futurecraft like fighters bombers etc. would be models. Something you craft like in Flans only better looking like Manus's stuff right here --> Manus's Modern Warfare Models
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PostSubject: Re: Something akin to the handsaw.   Mon Oct 29, 2012 5:39 pm

I think making your first ship should be relatively simple, but take maybe 2 hours. Larger ships and weapons> laser turrets should take 3 additional hours.
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PostSubject: Re: Something akin to the handsaw.   Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:02 pm

Kobialka wrote:
I thought we've already decided that the "small ships" of futurecraft like fighters bombers etc. would be models. Something you craft like in Flans only better looking like Manus's stuff right here --> Manus's Modern Warfare Models

Fighters, yes. But I believe we came to a kind of consensus (as much as possible on this forums) that heavy fighters would be buildable.
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PostSubject: Re: Something akin to the handsaw.   Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:37 am

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I thought we've already decided that the "small ships" of futurecraft like fighters bombers etc. would be models. Something you craft like in Flans only better looking like Manus's stuff right here --> Manus's Modern Warfare Models

Fighters, yes. But I believe we came to a kind of consensus (as much as possible on this forums) that heavy fighters would be buildable.

Yeah, we need models for the really small stuff, but anything that would go beyond 10 blocks lenght would most likely be block-built
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PostSubject: Re: Something akin to the handsaw.   Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:40 pm

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Perhaps a Particle Seperator capible of cutting everyting, Wood, Metal, Alloy, Your hand, Your freind, Your pig, Space, Time, Black Holes, Etc.
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PostSubject: Re: Something akin to the handsaw.   Fri Nov 09, 2012 6:48 pm

Because quoting moronic statements is against the rules Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Something akin to the handsaw.   Fri Nov 09, 2012 7:00 pm

Tiel wrote:
Because quoting moronic statements is against the rules Wink

Will he be receiving a reprimand, your honor?
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